StarBoy Posted May 5 Author Report Share Posted May 5 Proud of the boys, did a lot better than some expected, and to stop Ipswich getting 60 at home is some going (don’t think a lot of teams will achieve that this season). I sat exactly inline with the start/finish on the back straight and saw multiple nibbles at the start, with only Klindt getting pulled back. My only gripe is, if you’re going to enforce it, you have to consistently enforce it. At the end of the day I’m humble enough to admit the better team won, once Ipswich got settled on the lacklustre track that was that, as they have too much firepower at the back end of meetings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKM91 Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 3 hours ago, Whathappenedwas said: Decent effort from the boys today. Shame Klindt and Kvech couldn't maintain their performance all the way through the meeting. As for Boughen, i'd replace him immediately. He may be quick on a track on his own but he needs to realise there are 3 other riders in a race. Shutting down and totally bottling it! Him staying in the team will do no-one any favours. I'd go for Joe Thompson - can't be any worse! I agree, Joe Thompson must come in for Ashton before it’s too late Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarBoy Posted May 5 Author Report Share Posted May 5 1 minute ago, SamKM91 said: I agree, Joe Thompson must come in for Ashton before it’s too late Shame Cooper Rushen has only just turned 15!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 3 minutes ago, SamKM91 said: I agree, Joe Thompson must come in for Ashton before it’s too late Needed Gilkes when he was available.What I have seen of Boughen so far is,he is quick if he is on a track with fresh air between him and other riders,will back off if anyone is within a yard or two of him.But what gets me the most is the amount of times he just gives up this must annoy most of the fans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 What about Nathan Ablitt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Bash said: What about Nathan Ablitt If Ablitt had a Champ club he'd be worth a shot, but only riding NL/NT will make it a very big jump up to RS in the Prem. If Lynn make a change, Joe T would be my pick. Edited May 5 by szkocjasid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 3 hours ago, Aries said: Brennan should have been excluded. I hate the fact the referee’s always thinks when a rider goes down on the first bend then it’s all four back. There was nobody near him he spun off on his own. I was very surprised to see Kvech in heat 1. Made more sense to put Klindt in 1 seeing as he was always going to get seven rides. I thought the exact same thing too, would've spread out Klindt's rides more, but as Kvech won heat 1, can't say the TM was wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted May 6 Report Share Posted May 6 13 hours ago, Bald Bloke said: I've heard it said that a daytime summer meeting, needs water the day before, and starting again at around 4am as needed on race day to keep the moisture in the track. Not an easy task to get in right i'd imagine. Proper Planning and Preparation Prevents Piss Poor Performance 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy cookie returns? Posted May 6 Report Share Posted May 6 8 hours ago, tellboy said: Needed Gilkes when he was available.What I have seen of Boughen so far is,he is quick if he is on a track with fresh air between him and other riders,will back off if anyone is within a yard or two of him.But what gets me the most is the amount of times he just gives up this must annoy most of the fans. To be honest Boughen looked broken yesterday. Gave up at the back & then walked back to the pits head down….looks like he has had enough. Remember him beating either Emil or Doyle around Foxhall before, certainly a shadow of what he was a year or so ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted May 6 Report Share Posted May 6 22 minutes ago, cowboy cookie returns? said: To be honest Boughen looked broken yesterday. Gave up at the back & then walked back to the pits head down….looks like he has had enough. Remember him beating either Emil or Doyle around Foxhall before, certainly a shadow of what he was a year or so ago. His lack of mixing it when riders are close has been mentioned now for around 12 months by many who have watched him ride .. If it is clear to fans, it will definitely be clear to himself and his team managers.. Maybe some time out to review what he wants to do is needed? Not a sport you can do "half hearted" given the obvious dangers... And can be very unforgiving... The teams he rides for are irrelevant against his own personal well being . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjcone44 Posted May 6 Report Share Posted May 6 speedway as much mental as physical, and lose the mental side of it you are done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.D Posted May 6 Report Share Posted May 6 6 minutes ago, gjcone44 said: speedway as much mental as physical, and lose the mental side of it you are done. I know this too well, I worked with Adam Shields for 9 seasons, injury took its tool and at the end of his time in the sport he was riding within himself, didn't want to mix. I was so happy when he called it a day and has a happy life back in Australia including becoming world kettle ball champion a couple of years back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted May 6 Report Share Posted May 6 (edited) 1 hour ago, bigcatdiary said: Proper Planning and Preparation Prevents Piss Poor Performance What was more annoyong was the lack of attention to the track as it dried, just waiting for the standard grading after every 4/5 heats wasn't enough. When there were other gaps after crashes or two consecutive rides it should have been graded and watered then as well. However, when Doyle was behind, he made short shrift of those in front of him! Edited May 6 by SPEEDY69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted May 6 Report Share Posted May 6 9 hours ago, tellboy said: Needed Gilkes when he was available.What I have seen of Boughen so far is,he is quick if he is on a track with fresh air between him and other riders,will back off if anyone is within a yard or two of him.But what gets me the most is the amount of times he just gives up this must annoy most of the fans. Thought this at Belle Vue when a rider comes near him he backs off, i can see him walking away from the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted May 6 Report Share Posted May 6 12 minutes ago, SPEEDY69 said: What was more annoyong was the lack of attention to the track as it dried, just waiting for the standard grading after every 4/5 heats wasn't enough. When there were other gaps after crashes or two consecutive rides it should have been graded and watered then as well. However, when Doyle was behind, he made short shrift of those in front of him! It was the gaps after the crashes where the track was lost, it dried it our very quickly but the root cause was not enough water was put into the track in the previous 24 hours, basically it wasn’t prepared properly and the mini crop sprayer Ipswich use between heats just kept the dust down for the first heat after it was done after that it was dust dust and more dust, I appreciate you couldn’t water the super slick inside but it was very noticeable that Doyle and Sayfutdinov were using the outside lines from heat 8 onwards and looked untouchable. The problem is most tracks subscribe to this standard of track prep and in really hot weather (especially midday and afternoon meetings) you get really caught out if you haven’t watered it enough prior to the day of the meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted May 6 Report Share Posted May 6 1 hour ago, SPEEDY69 said: What was more annoyong was the lack of attention to the track as it dried, just waiting for the standard grading after every 4/5 heats wasn't enough. When there were other gaps after crashes or two consecutive rides it should have been graded and watered then as well. However, when Doyle was behind, he made short shrift of those in front of him! I noticed that used to happen at Berwick a lot, they'd grade the track at the same times every meeting. If they'd use r/r there would be a gap after one heat, nothing done, then track grading when no riders had two-on-the-trot. It was like it was an automated system they couldn't change, rather than the reality of telling the tractors the best times to go out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevtheRev Posted Tuesday at 10:33 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 10:33 AM I believe the rule book say you can only do track preparation work between heats 4,7 & 11 and before heat15. Any additional track work has to be agreed with both team managers before being requested to the referee. Not sure if there was a request, but given the early scoreline, Kings Lyn would have been crazy to agree to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJC Posted Tuesday at 11:04 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 11:04 AM 4 hours ago, cowboy cookie returns? said: To be honest Boughen looked broken yesterday. Gave up at the back & then walked back to the pits head down….looks like he has had enough. Remember him beating either Emil or Doyle around Foxhall before, certainly a shadow of what he was a year or so ago. Surely throwing him into so many international meetings can't be helping him either. Unless they're hoping he rides himself back into confidence but that's a very hard thing to do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasta la vista Posted Tuesday at 11:08 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 11:08 AM 4 hours ago, SPEEDY69 said: What was more annoyong was the lack of attention to the track as it dried, just waiting for the standard grading after every 4/5 heats wasn't enough. When there were other gaps after crashes or two consecutive rides it should have been graded and watered then as well. However, when Doyle was behind, he made short shrift of those in front of him! This was intentional. They stopped watering the starts as requested by the home team. When this happened they started making gates and KL riders lost the set up completely and got smashed in the 2nd half of the meeting. Home team got to do what it needs to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted Tuesday at 11:27 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 11:27 AM 4 hours ago, SPEEDY69 said: What was more annoyong was the lack of attention to the track as it dried, just waiting for the standard grading after every 4/5 heats wasn't enough. When there were other gaps after crashes or two consecutive rides it should have been graded and watered then as well. However, when Doyle was behind, he made short shrift of those in front of him! 4 hours ago, bigcatdiary said: It was the gaps after the crashes where the track was lost, it dried it our very quickly but the root cause was not enough water was put into the track in the previous 24 hours, basically it wasn’t prepared properly and the mini crop sprayer Ipswich use between heats just kept the dust down for the first heat after it was done after that it was dust dust and more dust, I appreciate you couldn’t water the super slick inside but it was very noticeable that Doyle and Sayfutdinov were using the outside lines from heat 8 onwards and looked untouchable. The problem is most tracks subscribe to this standard of track prep and in really hot weather (especially midday and afternoon meetings) you get really caught out if you haven’t watered it enough prior to the day of the meeting. 3 hours ago, szkocjasid said: I noticed that used to happen at Berwick a lot, they'd grade the track at the same times every meeting. If they'd use r/r there would be a gap after one heat, nothing done, then track grading when no riders had two-on-the-trot. It was like it was an automated system they couldn't change, rather than the reality of telling the tractors the best times to go out. 52 minutes ago, KevtheRev said: I believe the rule book say you can only do track preparation work between heats 4,7 & 11 and before heat15. Any additional track work has to be agreed with both team managers before being requested to the referee. Not sure if there was a request, but given the early scoreline, Kings Lyn would have been crazy to agree to it. Seems like the process is seen as more important than the purpose - which is rarely a recipe for success 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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