TheWellBehavedWorrall Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 8 minutes ago, mikebv said: How many casual newcomers were watching last night? On a stream only Speedway fans would know existed..? And any newbies in the stadium would have been impressed I am sure by the crowd size and feel good factor of winning, (if a Poole fan).. Years ago, even at Hyde Rd, many races were often spread out and "done" by the end of lap one, yet the large crowds, with plenty of away fans in attendance, kept the atmosphere at a level where going back the next week was almost a given... Similar racing now takes place in front of hundreds, not thousands, with almost no away fans, which is why the atmosphere at tracks doesn't make it a given you will return the next meeting.... Edit... And I would suggest the many thousands of lapsed fans who follow the sport closely but don't attend their local track regularly are the target market that should be prioritised in getting to attend .. Listening to them and fixing the reasons why they no longer attend would deliver a far greater return than hoping casual newcomers become regulars... Mike, you seem like an intelligent bloke, but listen to yourself. You’ve just suggested the crowd may have impressed newcomers. Are you being serious? We follow one of the most dramatic sports on the planet. Glasgow v Edinburgh a few weeks ago was nothing short of remarkable. That is the spectacle of Speedway. I suggested two Dorset based colleagues go along last night and neither did, but one purchased the stream to watch with his boy and let’s just say he won’t be a repeat subscriber to BSN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, TheWellBehavedWorrall said: Mike, you seem like an intelligent bloke, but listen to yourself. You’ve just suggested the crowd may have impressed newcomers. Are you being serious? We follow one of the most dramatic sports on the planet. Glasgow v Edinburgh a few weeks ago was nothing short of remarkable. That is the spectacle of Speedway. I suggested two Dorset based colleagues go along last night and neither did, but one purchased the stream to watch with his boy and let’s just say he won’t be a repeat subscriber to BSN. A final in a pro sport is about WINNING.... Not entertaining... Cinema's do that.... If you get an exciting meeting as well then (for the neutral), it's a bonus.. I had a conversation with a promoter in the 90's who I was potentially going to get involved in some sponsorship with, and mentioned that the racing wasn't always up to much and when I attended Sheffield and Stoke, (which I did each week), the racing there was more entertaining... His answer was along the lines of it was all about winning as that held the home crowd levels up, and that a few meetings of entertaining racing, but losing, was a recipe for closing down.... He certainly wasnt the only promoter then, or now, with those views... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill94d Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 6 hours ago, Colinspeedway said: Not bsns fault about the track. Poole is one of the worst tracks in the Championship for passing. Usually BSN are pretty clear with what matches are included in each package but I have the full package so not sure what you are referring to, but if they have made a mistake then get in touch with them? When I had an issue in the past they sorted it out swiftly. How do I get in touch?This is what I purchased and thought I would get both legs. My mistake or suitably vague? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spt82 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 36 minutes ago, TheWellBehavedWorrall said: Mike, you seem like an intelligent bloke, but listen to yourself. You’ve just suggested the crowd may have impressed newcomers. Are you being serious? We follow one of the most dramatic sports on the planet. Glasgow v Edinburgh a few weeks ago was nothing short of remarkable. That is the spectacle of Speedway. I suggested two Dorset based colleagues go along last night and neither did, but one purchased the stream to watch with his boy and let’s just say he won’t be a repeat subscriber to BSN. I think your colleague would've had a slightly more positive view if they'd actually been there last night, it's always a lot different actually being at a live event to watching on TV, I'd guess it was a pretty good atmosphere last night, I never saw it so can't comment on the racing side of things. You say that the Glasgow v Edinburgh match was remarkable, but for me that was in part due to the atmosphere and how it concluded, it wasn't the best racing wise I've seen at Ashfield this season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinspeedway Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 39 minutes ago, bill94d said: How do I get in touch?This is what I purchased and thought I would get both legs. My mistake or suitably vague? Email support@exstreammedia.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear_Bottom Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 20 hours ago, SteveLyric2 said: Harry Redknapp is in the stadium.!!! COYP. Edited 2 hours ago by Bear_Bottom 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 4 hours ago, gmarsbar2 said: Was it Glasgow's fault that the meeting was staged on the same night as SGP2 in which 2 of their riders were racing? Guests are an accepted part of the sport. No matter who is representing your team you support your team. No doubt next year it will be a different group of riders. The track was un-raceable that evening. Had it not been a playoff, with pressure to get it run, it would have been called off The root cause was three competitions still to be completed meant pressure to get it run, so ALL promoters were involved in that situation... Not a great idea by October to still have three left to sort, and running on an FIM date which was in fhe calendar for over 12 months just compounded the self inflicted issue.. It was also almost disrespectful to fans, (and sponsors), to run such a "prestigious" meeting given many would have paid all season to hopefully see their team in the play offs, and then end up with a "select side" to follow... An independent arbiter/body wouldn't have sanctioned this meeting given the situation with GP2, (but would no doubt also have ensured two of the competitions had been wrapped up by then)... It would have been interesting to see the Tigers fans reactions if they hadn't won the semi overall... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 45 minutes ago, bill94d said: How do I get in touch?This is what I purchased and thought I would get both legs. My mistake or suitably vague? If you go too BSN website and scroll too bottom of page there are contact details there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalan Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 5 hours ago, foreverblue said: Really I doubt Tony R had any issues with any track, he loved riding at Poole and we all loved having him. Always remember Tony saying one of the reasons he joined was he hated riding at Poole. He needed to master the track to make him a better rider. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy The Rebel Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago (edited) So in every sport you’ve gotta be entertaining and forget about winning you all make me laugh,sport is about winning which naturally brings in the fans,oh hang on a sec who won the entertainment trophy this season anyone know… As for Gavan bit rich considering ur dump of a track produces next to nothing but you won the league don’t think all of the 6000 people were complaining about the racing were they when you lifted the title. Edited 1 hour ago by Paddy The Rebel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, Catalan said: Always remember Tony saying one of the reasons he joined was he hated riding at Poole. He needed to master the track to make him a better rider. And he did master it, hardly ever got beaten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveArena Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago BBC South missed a trick. You had Shovvy and his lazarus like comeback from the dreaded Covid and Arry Triffic Redknapp. Should have had both of them in front of the camera Shovvy talking about how he came back from deaths door thanks to the vaccine and Arry saying how triffic the vaccine is. The NHS would have got great publicity there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted 3 minutes ago Report Share Posted 3 minutes ago (edited) 21 hours ago, Robinh88 said: You will see a good 15 races whatever the score. Booked tickets , I'm coming up to cheer on the Tigers!! Its going to be tough but hey they will give it a good go. Edited 1 minute ago by topaz325 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelShoe Posted 3 minutes ago Report Share Posted 3 minutes ago 3 hours ago, mikebv said: A final in a pro sport is about WINNING.... Not entertaining... Cinema's do that.... If you get an exciting meeting as well then (for the neutral), it's a bonus.. I had a conversation with a promoter in the 90's who I was potentially going to get involved in some sponsorship with, and mentioned that the racing wasn't always up to much and when I attended Sheffield and Stoke, (which I did each week), the racing there was more entertaining... His answer was along the lines of it was all about winning as that held the home crowd levels up, and that a few meetings of entertaining racing, but losing, was a recipe for closing down.... He certainly wasnt the only promoter then, or now, with those views... I feel a pro final is about both winning and being entertained. A Wembley football final doesn't disadvantage one team by the direction the grass has been cut but Poole purposely disadvantaged Glasgow using track preparation. That promoter you mention was complicit in the reduced gate takings because he failed to put a team together that was capable of winning at home on a regular basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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