Fortythirtyeight Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 2 hours ago, TTT said: Understandable imo. King doesn't exactly go well at most tracks away from Foxhall where's Klindt can score points everywhere bar Sheffield imo. Can’t agree with you at all on that, King has a respectable away average and if Klindt doesn’t like the way the wind is blowing , he’ll do nothing at all as he will be on his usual guarantee. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 1 hour ago, ShanoXtra said: But as has been said, there’s two sides to every story. We don’t know to what extent he was in the plans do we? I also read the Star this week where he says his average wasn’t a low as they thought it was. Maybe they assumed he’d get the 25%, and he’d be in on the provision they managed to get a number 1? Ok you could say they should know the rules, but let’s face it they’re new to this game and the rules are hardly crystal clear. We also don’t know how long Paul Hurry has been in place. Maybe they started to build the team, and then Paul Hurry came in and decided to change things. We just don’t know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShanoXtra Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Aries said: But as has been said, there’s two sides to every story. We don’t know to what extent he was in the plans do we? I also read the Star this week where he says his average wasn’t a low as they thought it was. Maybe they assumed he’d get the 25%, and he’d be in on the provision they managed to get a number 1? Ok you could say they should know the rules, but let’s face it they’re new to this game and the rules are hardly crystal clear. We also don’t know how long Paul Hurry has been in place. Maybe they started to build the team, and then Paul Hurry came in and decided to change things. We just don’t know. I’m sorry but how this has all been handled is a shambles. It’s far from a professional sport let’s be honest. Speedway in Britain needs some drastic changes and these promoters won’t do it alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 3 hours ago, IainB said: Business as usual then? We can't afford the top riders while Poland are paying what they are, not without a TV deal and a very good tv deal at that. And how you can say that not having a NDL standard riders in a single league is not the way to develop the sport I can't fathom 🤷♂️ There are still riders looking to ride over here, Ippo's signing of PHB this year and Lynn bringing in Kvech a few years back shows this and there are other new faces in the CL this year. Think about what you have said. in one breath you state UK can’t afford top riders then mention Kvech & PHB who can only ride in the UK because they will ride on Mondays & Thursdays. Also please consider that having NDL riders in same meetings or even races as the two aforementioned is in no way the best approach to providing competitive racing and confidence development of younger riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 4 hours ago, ouch said: No Brady due to our famous Play Off injury jinx. The Worralls took four of his play off rides with Jye Etheridge taking one. Ouch! I think the Peterborough guest only scored one and Andersen was injured withdrawn in his first ride, so a terrific Panthers performance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 41 minutes ago, Aries said: But as has been said, there’s two sides to every story. We don’t know to what extent he was in the plans do we? I also read the Star this week where he says his average wasn’t a low as they thought it was. Maybe they assumed he’d get the 25%, and he’d be in on the provision they managed to get a number 1? Ok you could say they should know the rules, but let’s face it they’re new to this game and the rules are hardly crystal clear. We also don’t know how long Paul Hurry has been in place. Maybe they started to build the team, and then Paul Hurry came in and decided to change things. We just don’t know. He didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago Great news for UK Speedway... Yet another overseas rider being given a chance to take up a spot that a UK rider should have got... And on, and on, and on, the Great Plan goes.. Well, if it ain't broken, and all that!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 26 minutes ago, SPEEDY69 said: I think the Peterborough guest only scored one and Andersen was injured withdrawn in his first ride, so a terrific Panthers performance. Amongst all the old timers, Jordan Palin was amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted 5 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, Aries said: But as has been said, there’s two sides to every story. We don’t know to what extent he was in the plans do we? I also read the Star this week where he says his average wasn’t a low as they thought it was. Maybe they assumed he’d get the 25%, and he’d be in on the provision they managed to get a number 1? Ok you could say they should know the rules, but let’s face it they’re new to this game and the rules are hardly crystal clear. We also don’t know how long Paul Hurry has been in place. Maybe they started to build the team, and then Paul Hurry came in and decided to change things. We just don’t know. PHB is a 4.50 so Jenkins even with a 2.5% Reduction would fit, I really like Jenkins and I hope he manages to pick up a PREM place Mid-Season but anyone would be insane to use him over Hellstrom-Bangs imo. We've heard that Mayfield have one eye on 2027 already and assuming that he enjoys British tracks then I think it's safe to say that PHB will be a Witches Rider for more than one season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, 1 valve said: Think about what you have said. in one breath you state UK can’t afford top riders then mention Kvech & PHB who can only ride in the UK because they will ride on Mondays & Thursdays. Also please consider that having NDL riders in same meetings or even races as the two aforementioned is in no way the best approach to providing competitive racing and confidence development of younger riders. Kvech and PHB are very far from top riders but are the type of foreign riders that UK Speedway can currently afford. And as for having NDL level riders in a one league format meeting is the ideal way to develop young riders, that's not to say they should be riding against the likes of Kvech and PHB but certainly riders around their level. Monday and Thursday clearly doesn't work for the fans even though it may for the riders but the tail is wagging the dog. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB1 Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 6 minutes ago, IainB said: Kvech and PHB are very far from top riders but are the type of foreign riders that UK Speedway can currently afford. And as for having NDL level riders in a one league format meeting is the ideal way to develop young riders, that's not to say they should be riding against the likes of Kvech and PHB but certainly riders around their level. Monday and Thursday clearly doesn't work for the fans even though it may for the riders but the tail is wagging the dog. Spot on as always Iain. They have clearly realised that you have to cut the cloth accordingly. One thing I will say with the race nights is at Ipswich which are somewhat rather fortunate in that Thursday has been our race night for all eternity and I have always thought that the media coverage in this area for speedway has in fairness always been top notch. Even back in the late nineties Tomasz Gollob used to do a weekly column for the local rag. Edited 5 hours ago by TB1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted 5 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 4 hours ago, 89buttons said: I wonder if they may place Lawson at 2 to support Tom in some tough heat ones? Him and fricke did some serious damage for Leicester season before last riding 3 heats together and he’ll win a lot of heat 8’s home and away. 1. Brennan 2. Lawson 3. King 4. Nicholls 5. Musielak 6. PHB 7. Edwards Can’t Scotty being fazed riding at 4 instead of 2 For Home meetings I'd go. 1. Brennan, 2. Lawson, 3. King, 4. Nicholls, 5. Musielak Lawson would get an inside Gate to start the Night and visiting Riders won't get much change out of a King/Nicholls partnership around Foxhall imo. For Away meetings I'd mix it up based on how Riders go at particular tracks. When visiting King's Lynn and Leicester 1. Brennan, 2. Nicholls, 3. King, 4. Musielak & 5. Lawson Brennan and Lawson go very well around both King's Lynn and Leicester and we can end the night with Brennan & Lawson (13), Musielak and Hellstrom-Bangs (14) then Heat 15 with two from three (Brennan, Lawson and Musielak) When visiting Belle Vue and Sheffield 1. Brennan, 2. Nicholls, 3. Lawson, 4. King & 5. Musielak We'd struggle either way but Musielak is a former Sheffield Rider and Brennan a former Aces Rider so it's the strongest pairing we could put out in a Heat 13 around those tracks considering Nicholls is likely to struggle around both of those tracks as well as King, Lawson doesn't like the NSS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago (edited) Fair point, some clubs are synonymous with their race night, Wolves on a Monday for example, Poole on a Wednesday, Ippo on a Thursday. Obviously you ride on the night you think you can get your best crowd... unless you're in the PL of course 🤷♂️ To suggest that all clubs riding in one league be limited to a Monday or Thursday is madness. Edited 5 hours ago by IainB 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, SPEEDY69 said: I think the Peterborough guest only scored one and Andersen was injured withdrawn in his first ride, so a terrific Panthers performance. Jordan Palin was great and took a fine paid win in heat 7 against Brady’s replacement. The panthers then just had to solider on by using their two top scorers (Harris & Nicholls) in Hans’ last two rides. A real backs to the wall performance from the beleaguered panthers against the perennially lucky Aces. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Irving Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 2 hours ago, mikebv said: Great news for UK Speedway... Yet another overseas rider being given a chance to take up a spot that a UK rider should have got... And on, and on, and on, the Great Plan goes.. Well, if it ain't broken, and all that!!! https://www.bellevue-speedway.com/blog/latest-news-2/team-news-zischke-joins-aces-295 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 15 minutes ago Report Share Posted 15 minutes ago 3 hours ago, Steve Irving said: https://www.bellevue-speedway.com/blog/latest-news-2/team-news-zischke-joins-aces-295 As I said... It just goes on, and on, and on... And all to try and win what exactly??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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