TTT Posted March 3 Author Report Share Posted March 3 14 minutes ago, mikebv said: Exactly my point... A continuing downward spiral of short term reactions, that means UK riders get replaced, become disillusioned, and then give up... If genuine World Class talent was coming in, then fine... However, invariably, for the last 30 years or so, most overseas riders have been nothing more than journeymen using a revolving door... And all done to win something with little kudos or relevance given the operating model used... Maybe ensuring more supply than demand for riders could mean UK Speedway gets ran authentically like other nations run their version of the sport..? It certainly won't happen with so many teams not even bothering to take UK rider development seriously, and also not protecting those who are on the lower rungs of the professional ladder... Only way to stop it, Is to bring in a rule stating that both reserves have to be British Riders which would leave Clubs looking something like the following. BV -> Mulford and Cairns KL -> Rushen and Scott LEI -> Kemp and Gilkes IPS -> Jenkins and Edwards SHE -> Harrison and Killeen 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 2 hours ago, ouch said: I was replying to a poster who stated we had Brady & Dan in the team for the 2021 play off final. This was factually incorrect. I still think it’s a good idea to limit the amount of Brits (or Brit in our case) being sacked mid season. That’s opinion not attitude and I get some fans disagree as we often get chastised for being too loyal. Last year we used 2 guests and stuck with the same 1-7. I like that and I understand others don’t but there is now need to get all passive aggressive in subsequent posts. I’m baffled that fans don’t agree with how we do things but as it’s generally (rich) fans who run the sport, it’s not lost on me as to why our sport is in such a mess. I think you were responding to me - if you were then that wasn't what I said. I was responding to the debate around the league being weak that year. The comment on the play off final was only about the result and Scott beating Bewley. So your statement above is factually and certainly and definitely incorrect.😉 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 35 minutes ago, TTT said: Only way to stop it, Is to bring in a rule stating that both reserves have to be British Riders which would leave Clubs looking something like the following. BV -> Mulford and Cairns KL -> Rushen and Scott LEI -> Kemp and Gilkes IPS -> Jenkins and Edwards SHE -> Harrison and Killeen Or they could simply have maintained the minimum 4 point average for non Brits That change only really seems to have been made to benefit one club 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89buttons Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 2 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Or they could simply have maintained the minimum 4 point average for non Brits That change only really seems to have been made to benefit one club There’s two northern based premiership clubs with Aussie no.6’s on 3 point starting averages this years isn’t there? 👀 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 2 hours ago, ouch said: I was replying to a poster who stated we had Brady & Dan in the team for the 2021 play off final. This was factually incorrect. I still think it’s a good idea to limit the amount of Brits (or Brit in our case) being sacked mid season. That’s opinion not attitude and I get some fans disagree as we often get chastised for being too loyal. Last year we used 2 guests and stuck with the same 1-7. I like that and I understand others don’t but there is now need to get all passive aggressive in subsequent posts. I’m baffled that fans don’t agree with how we do things but as it’s generally (rich) fans who run the sport, it’s not lost on me as to why our sport is in such a mess. I dont disagree with you i was reacting to a generalization not you directly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 9 minutes ago, 89buttons said: There’s two northern based premiership clubs with Aussie no.6’s on 3 point starting averages this years isn’t there? 👀 Ah yes - the 2 with current board members.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 17 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Or they could simply have maintained the minimum 4 point average for non Brits That change only really seems to have been made to benefit one club Add in new British riders on an average of 2 instead of 3 too 👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89buttons Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 2 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Or they could simply have maintained the minimum 4 point average for non Brits That change only really seems to have been made to benefit one club There’s two northern based premiership clubs with Aussie no.6’s on 3 point starting averages this years isn’t there? 👀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 1 hour ago, therefused said: Add in new British riders on an average of 2 instead of 3 too 👍 Some will find it strange that Rushden is a 3 point average in the prem but only a 2 in the Championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 Hellstrom-Bangs.!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89buttons Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 10 minutes ago, foreverblue said: Some will find it strange that Rushden is a 3 point average in the prem but only a 2 in the Championship. They would be new followers of British speedway to find that strange, us seasoned fans understand it to be totally normal for British speedway 😂 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 17 minutes ago, foreverblue said: Some will find it strange that Rushden is a 3 point average in the prem but only a 2 in the Championship. It’s the 1.5 conversion rate … 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 5 minutes ago, 89buttons said: They would be new followers of British speedway to find that strange, us seasoned fans understand it to be totally normal for British speedway 😂 Best interest of the the sport rule kicks in.🤔👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 (edited) 3 hours ago, GeneralMelchett said: i think the guys a nob but each to their own. Interesting to read the star this week and the comments from Jason Edwards about the club ethos and management at Ipswich - hugely complimentary - lets just hope that isn't lost But that’s the point,,the general public react to sound bites, you have proved the point, you’ve watched Bracknell,I’ve watched it and can’t stand football but I watch it because he is a parady and sometimes funny ,nobody outside the sport would give Richie Hawkins a view because he is dull, he may be a great team manger or whatever and he deserves a place in the sport but he is dull in interviews, that interview I watched this morning he may aswel of been explaining algebra Edited March 3 by THE DEAN MACHINE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 3 hours ago, foreverblue said: Some will find it strange that Rushden is a 3 point average in the prem but only a 2 in the Championship. Who is this Rushden geezer? His name is Cooper Rushen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 31 minutes ago, SteveLyric2 said: Who is this Rushden geezer? His name is Cooper Rushen Loads of people seem to do that, must be auto correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 (edited) 6 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Or they could simply have maintained the minimum 4 point average for non Brits That change only really seems to have been made to benefit one club The reduction from 4.00 to 3.00 was put in place when the rule book was being formulated for the 2025 season. There was a promoter who just missed the boat for the 2024 regs after this particular rule wasn’t to his liking. Can’t remember witch one. Edited March 3 by ouch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 7 hours ago, TTT said: Where was this energy when Mark Lemon dumped Jake Mulford for Tate Zischke @ No.6? I’ve not seen this, do you have a link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 (edited) On 3/2/2026 at 3:20 PM, SPEEDY69 said: Your Aces team had Bewley and Kurtz, Brennan, both Worralls and Charles Wright I think - the play off final at the NSS and seeing Scott beat Bewley was great if you weren't an Aces fan 😁 6 hours ago, SPEEDY69 said: I think you were responding to me - if you were then that wasn't what I said. I was responding to the debate around the league being weak that year. The comment on the play off final was only about the result and Scott beating Bewley. So your statement above is factually and certainly and definitely incorrect.😉 Dash it - what a mistake to make. Edited March 3 by ouch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy cookie returns? Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 This Ipswich side may do better than we think. The owners have by the sounds of it written this year off. The fans have low expectations so the pressure will be off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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