Lynn vs Ipswich July 2nd

[szkocjasid]

23 minutes ago, GeneralMelchett said:

Bit of a disaster but these things happen, in terms of what's needed for the league it keeps it a five horse race for the play offs - for now!

Lets hope the right people are helping Tom right now - form is temporary and all that! Agree with the comments from Mike above - he's having to ride against out and out no1s each meeting and that's not helping right not but he will get there!

I wouldn't call it a disaster, not even sure it's a 5 horse race for the play-offs.

Lynn having dropped 4 points at home (none scored away) and Witches having gained 2 points away (none dropped at home) is a great position for Witches to be in.

My first thought was, its a great result for Lynn, as they try to avoid the wooden spoon.

Don't really know what's happened to Brennan? Not the form I expected.

[ShanoXtra]

1 hour ago, mikebv said:

He can simply miss some matches over here...

Several riders have signed contracts with clubs who know their riders will be unavailable for Wednesdays and Saturdays...

And even Thursdays in the Premiership...

 

1 hour ago, mikebv said:

He can simply miss some matches over here...

Several riders have signed contracts with clubs who know their riders will be unavailable for Wednesdays and Saturdays...

And even Thursdays in the Premiership...

I get that he can ride in the champ but he won’t. There is no way he will add the championship to his season now. He will probably see it as a step back, he has just been unfortunate that things didn’t go well at Bydgoszcz this season, it’ll be a reset at the end of this season and go again with a different Polish club in M.2 

Edited 11 hours ago by ShanoXtra
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[TTT]

1 hour ago, Witches1998 said:

Can't see it for '27 unless his averages drops? They've already said next year will be different and they are in talks for a big #1. Big brennan fan but unfortunately I struggle to see that average fitting in next year? Around that average you'd have thought King and Musielak would be higher up the queue?

Club owe it to Tom imo.

Can't watch his confidence be destroyed and then bin him off imo, It's only right that the Club stick by him through the re-building process.

Tom could've signed elsewhere as an engine room rider or a No.5 instead of waiting all winter to ride @ No.1 for Ipswich.

[GeneralMelchett]

40 minutes ago, szkocjasid said:

I wouldn't call it a disaster, not even sure it's a 5 horse race for the play-offs.

Lynn having dropped 4 points at home (none scored away) and Witches having gained 2 points away (none dropped at home) is a great position for Witches to be in.

My first thought was, its a great result for Lynn, as they try to avoid the wooden spoon.

Don't really know what's happened to Brennan? Not the form I expected.

I think a lot of Witches fans will! 🙃

had the Stars lost then it was definitely 4 teams only!

[Witches1998]

18 minutes ago, TTT said:

Club owe it to Tom imo.

Can't watch his confidence be destroyed and then bin him off imo, It's only right that the Club stick by him through the re-building process.

Tom could've signed elsewhere as an engine room rider or a No.5 instead of waiting all winter to ride @ No.1 for Ipswich.

Owe it to him even for next year? At the Wednesday talk a couple weeks ago Coleman admitted he wasnt sure if he made the right decision sticking by the riders and not doing multiple changes to bring Doyle in. That loyalty might see him through this year, not so sure about into next. By the same reckoning King waited around as well? Everyone can't get a spot cause they waited this last winter when you know the team is being built differently.

If theres only a spot for 1x 6/7 average guy, why does brennan get it ahead of anyone else?

[FAST GATER]

It seems to me  Lynn is a track that you either ride well or not I believe many riders don't like riding there as they say the fence is less than forgiving .In his final season for Wolves PK threw a sicky ( almost unheard of from him)and would not ride at Lynn I assume  for fear of injury .

[ouch]

8 hours ago, mikebv said:

 

Both Brennan, and also Lidsey, made great progression riding at No3 with two World Class HL's at one and five in their teams..

 

 

Tom’s 2024 average with Birmingham was 7.56 (inc bonus) from the tough second heatleader position. 

Tom’s 2025 average with Ipswich was 7.64 (inc bonus) from the easier third heatleader position. 

If that’s a great progression (0.08) then we will have to agree to disagree.

Tom’s 2026 average with Ipswich is 6.26 (inc bonus) from the tough No1 position. 

I feel for the lad but he’s made his bed.

[mikebv]

31 minutes ago, ouch said:

Tom’s 2024 average with Birmingham was 7.56 (inc bonus) from the tough second heatleader position. 

Tom’s 2025 average with Ipswich was 7.64 (inc bonus) from the easier third heatleader position. 

If that’s a great progression (0.08) then we will have to agree to disagree.

Tom’s 2026 average with Ipswich is 6.26 (inc bonus) from the tough No1 position. 

I feel for the lad but he’s made his bed.

Away from Brum, in 2024, Tom ran a 6.58 average...

And that was in a season that included two "weaker teams" in Oxford and KL...

Last season there were two "weak teams" in Oxford and Birmingham that he rode against, and did so from the more protected No3 position...

Meaning his average made him a No1 this season, but reality, when up against those who are also No1's, said he isn't a No1 really..

Coming off a serious injury, and becoming a No1, was always going to be a big challenge for a rider who naturally, currently, isn't at that level..

[tellboy]

1 hour ago, FAST GATER said:

It seems to me  Lynn is a track that you either ride well or not I believe many riders don't like riding there as they say the fence is less than forgiving .In his final season for Wolves PK threw a sicky ( almost unheard of from him)and would not ride at Lynn I assume  for fear of injury .

Many riders didn't like how grippy the track was.I haven't heard the bit about the fence being less forgiving.Indeed it would be had it not have the foam bags there.

[IainB]

11 hours ago, cowboy cookie returns? said:

Well got well & truly turned over. Those who thought Jenkins should have replaced Bangs will Have been proven right tonight.

 

 

11 hours ago, Witches1998 said:

Regardless of points scored today, from comments sounds like Pedersen had a lot of fight today. Can't make same mistake again, we have to sign him up right now 

I wondered if any Witches fans were going to appear? 😉

Well done! 😂

[SPEEDY69]

10 hours ago, Bagpuss said:

Really enjoyable evening, some good racing and a Lynn win, what's not to like. Witches finally sent packing.

The racing was good - it seemed much slicker last night than it was the last time I went, maybe that's the answer for Lynn? 

Brennan was terrible, looked nervous, even when in good positions he gave them away easily.  Obviously very low on confidence but Ht 13 was better. Hopefully he can focus on that. 

Edited 2 hours ago by SPEEDY69

[TTT]

8 hours ago, Witches1998 said:

Owe it to him even for next year? At the Wednesday talk a couple weeks ago Coleman admitted he wasnt sure if he made the right decision sticking by the riders and not doing multiple changes to bring Doyle in. That loyalty might see him through this year, not so sure about into next. By the same reckoning King waited around as well? Everyone can't get a spot cause they waited this last winter when you know the team is being built differently.

If theres only a spot for 1x 6/7 average guy, why does brennan get it ahead of anyone else?

But he did stick rather than twist when everyone knew full well that Tom needed help.

Doyle offered that help but the Club/Hurry said no because they didn't want to release three riders and it would've been an easy three picks imo.

From a personal point of view, I think it's the Clubs job to re-build Tom after being partly responsible for his loss of confidence.

[therefused]

Has anyone found Hurrys dummy yet?

[MP78]

37 minutes ago, TTT said:

But he did stick rather than twist when everyone knew full well that Tom needed help.

Doyle offered that help but the Club/Hurry said no because they didn't want to release three riders and it would've been an easy three picks imo.

From a personal point of view, I think it's the Clubs job to re-build Tom after being partly responsible for his loss of confidence.

Astounded that they didn't bite Doyle's hand off!  Would've put a lot of bums on seats and given the club a massive boost

[Bagpuss]

47 minutes ago, SPEEDY69 said:

The racing was good - it seemed much slicker last night than it was the last time I went, maybe that's the answer for Lynn? 

Seemed to me they graded it regularly last night whereas against Leicester the dirt was allowed to build up out wide which made things tricky. 

[ouch]

1 hour ago, MP78 said:

Astounded that they didn't bite Doyle's hand off!  Would've put a lot of bums on seats and given the club a massive boost

It’s almost unbelievable that club legend, hero and witches through & through asked to return but was told no and then he went on to say in the press that his new club was his number one choice whilst Ipswich remained dignified in silence about their refusal. Like I say, it’s almost unbelievable.