GeneralMelchett Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 1 hour ago, Baldyman said: That's extremely true,, you can have 15 races no genuine passes and the comments on the socials after the meeting will be how brilliant the meeting and racing was all things can be true, close racing / trying but failing to overtake can be exciting particularly if a rider is well defending his racing line in front. - riders all strung out not so. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 25 minutes ago, GeneralMelchett said: all things can be true, close racing / trying but failing to overtake can be exciting particularly if a rider is well defending his racing line in front. - riders all strung out not so. Part of what makes Poland so watchable for me is the closeness of the racing .. Not always passing, but you can often see the rider behind trying new lines to at least try and make a pass.. And the consistent, usually quite slick, track surfaces give riders confidence to ride close, plus stops the rider in front filling everyone in and then flying off around a grippy track... Even "dead rubbers" in Ht14 and Ht15 can be brilliant to watch... (I presume £2k a point may have some influence on this though)...😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralMelchett Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 12 minutes ago, mikebv said: Part of what makes Poland so watchable for me is the closeness of the racing .. Not always passing, but you can often see the rider behind trying new lines to at least try and make a pass.. And the consistent, usually quite slick, track surfaces give riders confidence to ride close, plus stops the rider in front filling everyone in and then flying off around a grippy track... Even "dead rubbers" in Ht14 and Ht15 can be brilliant to watch... (I presume £2k a point may have some influence on this though)...😁 agree - the shape of the tracks helps as well in my view. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 44 minutes ago, GeneralMelchett said: all things can be true, close racing / trying but failing to overtake can be exciting particularly if a rider is well defending his racing line in front. - riders all strung out not so. But you can have tracks that it's near on impossible to pass due to track prep, watching them bust a gut trying outside and going backwards,, people still say good racing,, when in reality the racing is rubbish, but the riders trying make it look better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralMelchett Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 4 minutes ago, Baldyman said: But you can have tracks that it's near on impossible to pass due to track prep, watching them bust a gut trying outside and going backwards,, people still say good racing,, when in reality the racing is rubbish, but the riders trying make it look better I think the first part covered it - but yes witnessed Tobi trying that the other week V leicester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 Like at Plymouth where you get close racing but not a lot of passing because the track is too narrow both on the straights and the bends, around there riders almost automatically become Phillip Sitera, remember him? the rider they used to nickname the Rolling Roadblock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin Jason 72 Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 55 minutes ago, marko said: Like at Plymouth where you get close racing but not a lot of passing because the track is too narrow both on the straights and the bends, around there riders almost automatically become Phillip Sitera, remember him? the rider they used to nickname the Rolling Roadblock. When was the last time you went to Plymouth ? the track has been significantly widened on the bends and on the straights 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 Wonder if Stewart Dickson is already at Foxhall trying to hijack the tractor 😀 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 29 minutes ago, Bash said: Wonder if Stewart Dickson is already at Foxhall trying to hijack the tractor 😀 He probably has a saying like "if i can see dust, then i wont make a fuss" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 2 hours ago, GeneralMelchett said: I think the first part covered it - but yes witnessed Tobi trying that the other week V leicester He was not using the right lines though, always trying to turn too hard to cut underneath - a Harris style outside pass would've worked a dream. Passing to me is not the be all and end all - if that's what it's all about then just make the best riders at that particular track start from a handicap. I agree with your earlier post that it's about the race, which isn't just overtaking and some riders can handle inconsistent or grippy/slick tracks better than others, that's what makes it unpredictable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveArena Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 Dicko will psych out Hurry and the Lions will win the cup. Gavan will be phoning Chris Louis to come back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chun Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 Dicko hasn’t fronted up for the BSN pre meet interviews. Running scared perhaps? Hurry doesn’t look the dangerous type but who knows what he’s capable of when cornered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 Dicko is stuck in traffic after a crash this afternoon somewhere, with Phil Morris there im sure plenty of water will go down, I hope so anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 Great ride Danny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 3 minutes ago, foreverblue said: Great ride Danny. More like mistake from sam 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 Just now, PhilTheAce said: More like mistake from sam Danny forced the mistake in my opinion. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 What the hell they playing over the tannoy after heat 8. My god. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 7 minutes ago, foreverblue said: Danny forced the mistake in my opinion. The track forced the mistake for me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 2 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said: The track forced the mistake for me Well Danny wasnt that great in heat 8 which could have also been the track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 Just now, foreverblue said: Well Danny wasnt that great in heat 8 which could have also been the track. Track definitely causing problems to some riders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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