lewy Posted 16 hours ago Report Share Posted 16 hours ago 12 minutes ago, poole keith said: Cairns "high"average is partly a consequence of lawsons "lower" average,you couldn't have both on "good' averages,so lawson might be the better call for next yr Absolutely spot on if both in the same team nothing gained by Lawson shutting off to let cairns through Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Eck Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago 3 hours ago, lewy said: Absolutely spot on if both in the same team nothing gained by Lawson shutting off to let cairns through Surely that’s nothing lost? Lawson gains because a lower average coupled with his ability makes him a more desirable rider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago 37 minutes ago, Wee Eck said: Surely that’s nothing lost? Lawson gains because a lower average coupled with his ability makes him a more desirable rider. Yes it is if they are both in the same team, if not makes Lawson better value and cairns less value, so that begs the question why did Lawson do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago 2 minutes ago, lewy said: Yes it is if they are both in the same team, if not makes Lawson better value and cairns less value, so that begs the question why did Lawson do it? To be honest I thought Lawson was poor at times last season, nothing to do with him letting Cairns win races. I think both their averages are accurate, not higher or lower than they should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago 5 hours ago, Diamonds85 said: Having the misfortune of knowing Cairns personally, I'd say perhaps attitude. Get that, also he has had a massive teen growth spurt, which may hinder him on a speedway bike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerIain Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago 24 minutes ago, lewy said: Yes it is if they are both in the same team, if not makes Lawson better value and cairns less value, so that begs the question why did Lawson do it? I can think of 3 possible reasons: 1 Lawson knew Cairns wasn't going to be invited back so it worked for Poole 2 Lawson was just looking after himself and his average and it just happened to affect Cairns 3 He wasn't, Cairns was just beating him 8 minutes ago, Neila said: Get that, also he has had a massive teen growth spurt, which may hinder him on a speedway bike It held Bewley back for one season whilst he adjusted. Could be the same for Cairns hence Poole letting him go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderman1 Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago 7 minutes ago, TigerIain said: I can think of 3 possible reasons: 1 Lawson knew Cairns wasn't going to be invited back so it worked for Poole 2 Lawson was just looking after himself and his average and it just happened to affect Cairns 3 He wasn't, Cairns was just beating him It held Bewley back for one season whilst he adjusted. Could be the same for Cairns hence Poole letting him go? 7 minutes ago, TigerIain said: I can think of 3 possible reasons: 1 Lawson knew Cairns wasn't going to be invited back so it worked for Poole 2 Lawson was just looking after himself and his average and it just happened to affect Cairns 3 He wasn't, Cairns was just beating him It held Bewley back for one season whilst he adjusted. Could be the same for Cairns hence Poole letting him go? He grew another helmet size this year towards the end, do him good to move on for experience 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Spiderman1 said: He grew another helmet size this year towards the end, do him good to move on for experience 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 2 hours ago, Neila said: Get that, also he has had a massive teen growth spurt, which may hinder him on a speedway bike I raced in the same practices and amateur meetings when he was a couple years younger, 13/14 and he thought he was god's gift to man. Every rider had to wait their turn in the queue to go out but not Will, he thought he could just push to the front and go out when he wanted. Riders like Luke Harrison, Max James and Freddy Hodder were also there and waited just like everyone else. Even the odd times the likes of Steve Worrall and Max Clegg turned up, they waited. I used to hate it when you got to the front of the queue, adrenaline starting to pump, you get yourself all fired up and then 'Will's going out next, you're going to have to wait' proper makes you feel sick in your helmet. And all he ever did for the extra time he got on the track compared to everyone else was practice wheelies. I know he was 'just a kid' at the time, but he's an adult now and doesn't seem to have matured at all, in fact his head seems bigger than ever. Perhaps he needs a couple of seasons at a small club to knock him down a peg or two. Was a little rubbish in the pits too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1o6 Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago Where’s all this talk about Cairns leaving come from? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted 57 minutes ago Report Share Posted 57 minutes ago 8 hours ago, Diamonds85 said: I raced in the same practices and amateur meetings when he was a couple years younger, 13/14 and he thought he was god's gift to man. Every rider had to wait their turn in the queue to go out but not Will, he thought he could just push to the front and go out when he wanted. Riders like Luke Harrison, Max James and Freddy Hodder were also there and waited just like everyone else. Even the odd times the likes of Steve Worrall and Max Clegg turned up, they waited. I used to hate it when you got to the front of the queue, adrenaline starting to pump, you get yourself all fired up and then 'Will's going out next, you're going to have to wait' proper makes you feel sick in your helmet. And all he ever did for the extra time he got on the track compared to everyone else was practice wheelies. I know he was 'just a kid' at the time, but he's an adult now and doesn't seem to have matured at all, in fact his head seems bigger than ever. Perhaps he needs a couple of seasons at a small club to knock him down a peg or two. Was a little rubbish in the pits too. Tbf he isn't an adult yet. Got another 8 months or so! But i remember everyone used to moan about Darcy being immature when he was at Poole. Everyone grows up eventually. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mgas Posted 54 minutes ago Report Share Posted 54 minutes ago 6 hours ago, 1o6 said: Where’s all this talk about Cairns leaving come from? It came from Cairns himself. He had previously said he doesn’t think his average will fit in with pooles 2027 plans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted 52 minutes ago Report Share Posted 52 minutes ago 1 minute ago, Mgas said: It came from Cairns himself. He had previously said he doesn’t think his average will fit in with pooles 2027 plans. Depends on which plan they were working on?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mgas Posted 46 minutes ago Report Share Posted 46 minutes ago 4 minutes ago, SteveLyric2 said: Depends on which plan they were working on?! I’ve got absolutely no Idea what Poole are doing. I was only answering a question as to where the doubt about Cairns came from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASpeedwayfan Posted 17 minutes ago Report Share Posted 17 minutes ago 30 minutes ago, SteveLyric2 said: Depends on which plan they were working on?! Can’t see Fridays announcement giving too much away, Has Zach made his mind up? Slater is back in the US so don’t think he will be the announcement. Cairns and Newman are the 2 that I’m not sure will be back. so I’d expect Lawson or Cooper to be the announcement, Cooper they might save to a later date as it’s good media? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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