ouch Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago I’m less optimistic about major change in the sport. Ousting cartel members from the top table and replacing them with Mark and Rob should have offered more. I’m please with the introduction of Northampton and an addition of a top man to the team Mark put together will result in a competitive side. Having Belle Vue on terrestrial TV for the first time in decades was a great result but after that not much to write home about. Richard Colman talks the talk but the only thing he has done so far was marked by that thing we all (most) hate - self interest. I’m worried he’s another in the long line of here today gone tomorrow promoters and with a none existent line of would be buyers I remain concerned about the long term viability of yet another club. Looking through Richard’s ventures to date does not fill you with confidence as to his staying power. After the previously mentioned pluses from this season it would be a shame to see things drop back again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago Reading comments on here , anyone would think that the top tier (old Elite League) invented the doubling up (not down) rule. It started in about 2002 when two riders from Premier league clubs (second tier) could share a berth in the elite league . Their premier clubs always took priority. I feel like this had a negative effect on what was a brilliant model at the time (premier) with anything between 15-18 clubs for a while. This was the start of the feeling that riders weren't fully committed to one club anymore. The elite league being in such a mess at the time was the reason for this daft rule to be brought in. they need to make two leagues , have 5 man teams and a new heat format and go from there. Riders can only ride in one league not both. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoundTheBoards Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 2 hours ago, CTRSports said: some teams could use that to their benefit depending on resources could have 4 relatively big hitters in a side, use any you mentioned at no.2 with a decent U21 at 6 Say Sheffield for example Jack Holder Luke Killeen Chris Holder Zach Cook Josh Pickering Beau Bailey Jordy Loftus Except that line-up is well over the points limit, and in that line-up Killeen would be reserve, and he's now turned 21. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTRSports Posted 5 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 2 hours ago, ouch said: I’m less optimistic about major change in the sport. Ousting cartel members from the top table and replacing them with Mark and Rob should have offered more. I’m please with the introduction of Northampton and an addition of a top man to the team Mark put together will result in a competitive side. Having Belle Vue on terrestrial TV for the first time in decades was a great result but after that not much to write home about. Richard Colman talks the talk but the only thing he has done so far was marked by that thing we all (most) hate - self interest. I’m worried he’s another in the long line of here today gone tomorrow promoters and with a none existent line of would be buyers I remain concerned about the long term viability of yet another club. Looking through Richard’s ventures to date does not fill you with confidence as to his staying power. After the previously mentioned pluses from this season it would be a shame to see things drop back again. In all fairness to Coleman - he came to the tapes with Ipswich extremely late - he still to this date doesn't have a years experience of running/owning in British league Speedway club, so when you say he talks the talk, I don't think he's had any kind of opportunity to do anything, and with the way the sport is run, its not going to be a short term showing is it - if he has ambitions to improve the sport, it will be done over the longer term 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTRSports Posted 5 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 28 minutes ago, RoundTheBoards said: Except that line-up is well over the points limit, and in that line-up Killeen would be reserve, and he's now turned 21. What is the points limit? What is the rules for '27 stating that any U21 reserve moves into the main body? It was an example, take out who you want and put a lower avg rider in, take Kileen out and another and put two others in, you'll get the same thing, i.e. a stronger top end with Killeen in, a longer tail with him out of it Maybe you can confirm the points limit please and that for U21 at 6 what averages they come in on 4.5/5.00/6.00 etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTRSports Posted 2 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 2 hours ago If Eastbourne come to the tapes.... Becker & Lightcap at No1 & 2 Lawson, Harris & Masters at 3, 4 & 5 Kemp + an RS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 4 hours ago, Pinny said: Reading comments on here , anyone would think that the top tier (old Elite League) invented the doubling up (not down) rule. It started in about 2002 when two riders from Premier league clubs (second tier) could share a berth in the elite league . Their premier clubs always took priority. I feel like this had a negative effect on what was a brilliant model at the time (premier) with anything between 15-18 clubs for a while. This was the start of the feeling that riders weren't fully committed to one club anymore. The elite league being in such a mess at the time was the reason for this daft rule to be brought in. they need to make two leagues , have 5 man teams and a new heat format and go from there. Riders can only ride in one league not both. Was that Simmo and possibly one of Rasmussen or Schroek or was that even earlier ? Edited 2 hours ago by YeOldPitGate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS50 Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, YeOldPitGate said: Was that Simmo and possibly one of Rasmussen or Schroek or was that even earlier ? Seem to recall reading in Malcolm Simmons book, that he deliberately scored nil in a match, in order to reduce his average so he could get in to the second division. Not sure if that is what you meant. Anyone else remember this in his book? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin Jason 72 Posted 36 minutes ago Report Share Posted 36 minutes ago 31 minutes ago, RS50 said: Seem to recall reading in Malcolm Simmons book, that he deliberately scored nil in a match, in order to reduce his average so he could get in to the second division. Not sure if that is what you meant. Anyone else remember this in his book? Yes it was when he was riding for Swindon I believe and he dropped down and rode for hackney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teromaafan Posted 15 minutes ago Report Share Posted 15 minutes ago 2 hours ago, CTRSports said: If Eastbourne come to the tapes.... Becker & Lightcap at No1 & 2 Lawson, Harris & Masters at 3, 4 & 5 Kemp + an RS That team has a top six look about it! If they are going to win a meeting, they will need to have a decent lead before heat 13. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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