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Poole fans will never admit when they are wrong, they will just double down at every opportunity.

Some absolutely crazy comments on here. Fact is Danny is not overly bothered about having the 2nd leg. Everything was in place to run yesterday, BSN had set off and were well on their way when things all went on hold. Forecasts weren't good so decision was made. This decision had to be made before midday otherwise costs soar. Having witnessed the rain we did have, maybe the meeting could have been finished before the heavens opened.

The unnecessary price increase highlight's how detached from a professional business acumen these people are. Speedway is done and dusted in this country. R.I.P. BRITISH SPEEDWAY.

And just like that, a Poole fan has proven your point 😄😄 Clear as day difference from a meeting simply called off on forecast and one largely called off because of rain that has already arrived.

I’m sure he will be ,but as I am in Tenerife I don’t really give a toss.

Typical Poole responce.

only problem I have, is that Redcar finished their maxicab and bsn quarter finals in May and have had to wait for other teams to delay their matches until august,Why?????

What about when there's clearly no demand? Put the prices up 😂

Based on one off the cuff comment by Doyle on Monday evening. Pretty sure thats not exactly what he meant.

Just hope Brady and Dan get through it unscathed. As professionals they’ll definitely give their all on the night but they’ve been there done it with this competition. Let another dog have its day . Just get to Saturday’s massive meeting safe.

Not saying the Poole decision was right or wrong or pre determined But season after season with Poole this topic comes up Are all the fans of the other clubs wrong everytime No smoke without fire

Definitely not, there is no chance of this being called off. With the last GP just a couple of days later, I seriously doubt Kurtz and Bewley will be taking too many risks...😉

I agree. It's probably a combination, for me at least, of football always being quite a 'premier' event to attend (at least top level football) and speedway slowly creeping up from ~£13 to £27. I think my biggest obstacle is the uncertainty in what you're going to get. If I go to a top-level football game, although I might watch a boring game, it's in a nice stadium, the atmosphere is usually good, and the top players are, in the main, guaranteed to be playing. Similar to a big music gig. If I go to a British speedway meeting I'd get no nice stadium, close to zero atmosphere mostly, and maybe 4/5 top riders across both sides. When you add in that track conditions being bad can wipe out nearly any racing, the venue entertainment is often abysmal, etc. then it just makes you question if £27 is really worth it? My view is probably skewed, though, because I don't have a local track. I think I'd probably (un)happily spend £20 a week if I did, because I'd have a team to support and some skin in the game. As it is, I just pick and choose as a neutral and that's when you realise that it's mostly poor value.

Yesterday it wasn't raining and according to the forecast the probability of rain in the evening was 30% to 50%... and it turned out to be 0% until around 9 o'clock... Today it is raining and according to the forecast the probability of rain in the evening is 70% to 90%... Spot the difference....

Maybe there should be cut-off dates for the completion of all KO Cup/BSN etc rounds/Semi Finals/Finals. Then it might solve the problem?

1981 is a lifetime ago when we had limited entertainment options. That is not the case anymore. Speedway fans don't travel. I think I am one of the few exceptions, but I don't fit the average speedway fan demographic. When I have attended Birmingham, Oxford or Leicester during the last two seasons I have seen very few Wolves or Coventry fans. Looking around maybe Leicester does the best out of the three venues I mentioned with maybe 20ish a meeting. If speedway fans travelled then their would be greater support at away tracks rather than a hardcore 5-30 away fans at league meetings.

Bet this thread doesn't go into meltdown like the Poole one

For the final time in 2025 here is the spread for Vojens GP round 10 Saturday 13th September 2025 Zmarzlik 15 - 17 Kurtz 14 - 16 Lindgren 11 - 13 Bewley 10 - 12 Lambert 10 - 12 J Holder 10 - 12 Lebedevs 9 - 11 Fricke 9 - 11 Doyle 9 - 11 Michelsen 7 - 9 Thomsen 7 - 9 MJJ 6 - 8 Vaculik 4 - 6 Kubera 3 - 5 Kvech 3 - 5 Huckenbeck 3 - 5 ALL BETS TO BE PM’d TO ME BEFORE 6pm ! A request - please don’t let London Racer have an easy ride in this last round- absolutely no point in not going for him in a big way lol

Which demonstrates that price is a red herring when people talk about what to do to attract more people to watch the sport live.

Was interesting to hear Bewley on TNT publicly say how much he enjoys riding Foxhall despite not doing particularly well here. He’s said the same over the tannoy at Foxhall in the past, but I just put that down to the fact he was being interviewed in front of a big Ipswich crowd and saying all the right things. He’ll soon be hitting the big scores here when he rides it most weeks next year. 😁

Obviously the standard in Germany and longtrack u23 is very poor, maybe you should have kept Vuolas.

Maybe Bears 'fans' should read Gavin Parr's comments on FB agreeing with the decision to call it off early. It saved the cost of an overnight hotel for the team south of Oxford which he was able to cancel as riders hadn't started to travel!!

Lidsey? Hes the highest averaged 3rd heat leader in the league.

Is it me or is there a deafening silence from AceBelle

Personally think Dans form has dropped a little lately but take your point.

Dan has ridden 14 heats at Armadale this season and has 12 wins/paid wins and 2 second places good for a 11.43cma so while it may not weaken Glasgow depending on what Nicolai does there is no guest who strengthens them in regards Dan as even if Nicolai goes through the card, Dan may well have done the same. Wood is a definite upgrade on Perry I’d say and as for Lambert/Nagal who knows as Nagal may have scored ten or none as an Armadale debutant

I don’t disagree with your comments but the financial stakes seem to be much bigger these days and with Poland seemingly calling the tune it is a big financial risk for riders. In all fairness who would blame Brady for not taking too many risks given the biggest prize of his career possibly up for grabs. As much as I like Bartosz I would like to see Brady take the honours this year as the guy deserves it.

Very good at Armadale Guest feast as usual the sport is just a joke

How many times can this guy say Poland....

I don't disagree. I'm simply illustrating that other sports already do the same. There are a whole host of things that clubs could do to make meetings more of an event and greater value for money - most of which have been floated on here any number of times. There is endless free information available on the internet that shows tried and trusted methods used by other sports to engage fans and grow crowds. For whatever reason most clubs ignore that It may well be that the lesser difference in standard between riders is why some people prefer the Championship to the Premiership.

It's raining now and not due to stop for another 3 hours ....

If it was just the rain that has already arrived the meeting could still be on, it is because there is more rain forecast that caused the postponement.

But forecast to stop later so no reason to call it off so early.

Have we moved it to Oxford so more Poole fans can attend or watch the stream?

Is it the morphine or the boredom causing these hallucinations Rest up

Berry logic kicks in again.😂

Squads for SoN and SoN2 : 2025 FIM SPEEDWAY OF NATIONS SQUAD LISTS: SEMI-FINAL 1 (SEPTEMBER 30): GERMANY: 1. Kai Huckenbeck (captain), 2. Norick Blodorn, 3. Valentin Grobauer, 4. Jonny Wynant, 5. Patrick Hyjek. Team Managers: Mathias Bartz / Sascha Dorner. GREAT BRITAIN: 1. Robert Lambert (captain), 2. Daniel Bewley, 3. Tom Brennan, 4. Adam Ellis, 5. Leon Flint. Team Managers: Simon Stead / Oliver Allen. ITALY: 1. Paco Castagna (captain), 2. Nicolas Covatti, 3. Nicolas Vicentin, 4. Nicolo Percotti. Team Manager: Alessandro Dalla Valle. LATVIA: 1. Andzejs Lebedevs (captain), 2. Jevgenijs Kostigovs, 3. Daniils Kolodinskis, 4. Olegs Mihailovs, 5. Francis Gusts. Team Manager: Vladimirs Vagels. NORWAY: 1. Mathias Pollestad (captain), 2. Glenn Moi, 3. Lasse Frederiksen, 4. Truls Kamhaug, 5. Jorgen Lystad. Team Manager: Kenneth Klipper Smith. SLOVENIA: 1. Matic Ivacic (captain), 2. Anze Grmek, 3. Denis Stojs, 4. Luka Omerzel, 5. Sven Cerjak. Team Manager: Gregor Arnsek. SWEDEN: 1. Fredrik Lindgren (captain), 2. Kim Nilsson, 3. Jacob Thorsell, 4. Timo Lahti, 5. Philip Hellstrom-Bangs. Team Manager: Linus Sundstrom. SEMI-FINAL 2 (OCTOBER 1): ARGENTINA: 1. Fernando Garcia (captain), 2. Cristian Zubillaga, 3. Facundo Albin. Team Manager: Claudio Schmit. AUSTRALIA: 1. Ryan Douglas, 2. Jason Doyle, 3. Jack Holder (captain), 4. Max Fricke, 5. Brady Kurtz. Team Manager: Mark Lemon. CZECH REPUBLIC: 1. Jan Kvech (captain), 2. Vaclav Milik, 3. Adam Bubba Bednar, 4. Daniel Klima, 5. Adam Kamenik. Team Manager: Zdenek Schneiderwind. DENMARK: 1. Mikkel Michelsen (captain), 2. Leon Madsen, 3. Michael Jepsen Jensen, 4. Anders Thomsen, 5. Mads Hansen. Team Manager: Nicki Pedersen. FINLAND: 1. Jesse Mustonen (captain), 2. Anti Vuolas, 3. Tero Aarnio, 4. Otto Raak, 5. Roni Niemela. Team Manager: Aki-Pekka Mustonen. FRANCE: 1. Dimitri Berge, 2. David Bellego (captain), 3. Mathias Tresarrieu, 4. Steven Goret, 5. Tino Bouin. Team Manager: Laurent Sambarrey. UKRAINE: 1. Nazar Parnitskyi 2. Marko Levishyn (captain), 3. Roman Kapustin, 4. Stanislav Melnychuk, 5. Andrii Karpov. Team Manager: Sergii Latosinski. FIM SPEEDWAY OF NATIONS – SON2 (OCTOBER 3): AUSTRALIA: 1. Mitchell McDiarmid, 2. James Pearson (captain), 3. Michael West, 4. Tate Zischke. Team Manager: Mark Lemon. CZECH REPUBLIC: 1. Adam Bubba Bednar (captain), 2. Jan Jenicek, 3. Jaroslav Vanicek, 4. Bruno Belan, 5. Matous Kamenik. Team Manager: Zdenek Schneiderwind. DENMARK: 1. Bastian Pedersen (captain), 2. William Drejer, 3. Mikkel Andersen, 4. Villads Nagel, 5. Nicolai Heiselberg. Team Manager: Hans Andersen. GERMANY: 1. Norick Blodorn (captain), 2. Jonny Wynant, 3. Patrick Hyjek, 4. Mario Hausl, 5. Hannah Grunwald. Team Manager: Sascha Dorner / Mathias Bartz. GREAT BRITAIN: 1. Daniel Thompson (captain), 2. Luke Harrison, 3. Luke Killeen, 4. Sam Hagon, 5. Jake Mulford. Team Manager: Neil Vatcher. LATVIA: 1. Nikita Kaulins (captain), 2. Artjoms Juhno, 3. Damirs Filimonovs. Team Manager: Vladimirs Vagels. SWEDEN: 1. Rasmus Karlsson, 2. Casper Henriksson (captain), 3. Erik Persson, 4. Ludvig Selvin, 5. Noel Wahlquist. Team Manager: Linus Sundstrom. POLAND: 1. Antoni Kawczynski, 2. Kevin Malkiewicz, 3. Kacper Mania, 4. Wiktor Przyjemski, 5. Damian Ratajczak. Team Manager: Rafal Dobrucki. FIM SON FINAL (OCTOBER 4): POLAND: 1. Patryk Dudek, 2. Dominik Kubera, 3. Piotr Pawlicki, 4. Wiktor Przyjemski, 5. Bartosz Zmarzlik. Team Manager: Rafal Dobrucki.

I can see the lead being overturned within six heats, home 4-2 in heat 1 and a 5-1 in heat two and its going to be a long night for us.

Using dynamic pricing it woukd go down - so don't expect British Speedway to use that.

Mind games..

Incorrect.

Always good for a laugh the "SCB" you could not make it up , they were incompetent when I attended speedway and haven't improved. Their grammatically incorrect statement shows the completely amateur disorganised shower that are allegedly controlling the sport. "The SCB Referee at the Kent fixture had been informed that Mr Foord was unavailable for this fixture and having consulted the SCB had at that time had correctly allowed a facility, however on further investigation this should not have been authorised and the score of the guest for Cooper Rushen will be deleted from the meeting result." So referee consulted the SCB and they had allowed the facility. (they repeated HAD twice for avoidance of doubt !) "on further investigation" they changed their mind ! you cannot do that !!! amateur hour !!! the score of the guest for Cooper Rushen ???? what ???? I thought Cooper Rushen was THE guest rider ??

This 100%. And in this case it would make score 43-44 or 43-45 (depending in whether Crewe could be lapped by a non-existant rider)

That makes zero sense. There would be no point doing that. And when they report it off due to the forecast to you really think no one checks it at the time? If Poole really wanted it off they could have just left the hose on like BV did that time when Zagar missed a flight. Next time take the second leg.

I've never understood why on the occasions this happens that the team that has the riders points deleted. Every race concerned riders should be moved up a place and bonus points added into the averages.

Maybe we can have the final at Kings Lynn!

I would estimate about 2000 Max... The mainstand was about half full (900 or so), with possibly over 1000 on the back straight (there was still loads of room there)... There was the usual lack of local promoting of the play offs, however, I believe Granada Reports mentioned it at around half six, (just over an hour before start!)... Amazed people didn't put their teas down and get themselves down there!!! I have only been once this season so I got there around 6.45 to try and get a space on Kirky Lane, (as I remember these spaces usually get filled quickly), and half the road was available, which tended to suggest there and then that the crowd wasn't going to be "bumper".. I have said many times, Speedway needs to find a way to get Away Fans in attendance in decent numbers... There may have been Witches fans there last night but they were few and far between... Ironically, given the home crowd levels, the Aces do take a decent following away and I remember around 150 or more at Ipswich a couple of seasons ago for the first leg of the POSF.. And obviously 400 or so at Sheffield and around 300 at Leicester when they won their recent titles.. 150 Witches fans, either sat together or stood together, would have given the meeting the feeling of being an "event", (that a POSF should be seen as), rather than the mundane, run of the mill, evening it ended up being.. No idea why clubs don't subsidise Away Fans admission (huge reductions), given so very few go now.. It would raise the atmosphere levels massively...

So you must be farmer Giles?

Obviously time has moved on a few years and things are more expensive but I was told yesterday a rider was asking for a substantial guarantee and nearly 3 times the point money I was getting in the premier league to race in the amateur meetings on the Isle of Wight this year but this is nothing new, I just didn’t think it had decended down to amateur level, they didn’t pay it by the way