Workington v Redcar 10/05/25 3pm BSN series

[topaz325]

Another tough meeting this Saturday afternoon for the Comets against a Bears side boasting a strong top four of Wright, Riss, King and Edwards.

The Comets will need to be on top form to beat the Redcar side who are one of the favorites this season to make the top four play offs.

The weather is still looking good for this weekend so hopefully some Redcar fans will make the journey over from the East to watch this meeting. 

[Neila]

Unfortunately with the very good weather, it's harder for track preparation, needs a lot of water to produce the grip and keep the dust down, last Saturday imo very little grip and a little bit of dust, at Redcar the nite before no dust, but no grip at all, can see this weekend being the same.. come on comets we can do this UTC

[Neila]

Just seen on social media that comets TV is to be launched at this meeting. Is this a good thing or a bad thing ?? IMO it may stop families/ groups coming to pay £x at Northside but can pay say £14 and several people will sit at home watching the stream, therefore the club loses a lot of admission money. Any more thoughts on this

[LisaColette]

17 minutes ago, Neila said:

Just seen on social media that comets TV is to be launched at this meeting. Is this a good thing or a bad thing ?? IMO it may stop families/ groups coming to pay £x at Northside but can pay say £14 and several people will sit at home watching the stream, therefore the club loses a lot of admission money. Any more thoughts on this

They can just stop doing it if it affects the gate too much. Good on them for testing it and see how it does. 

[Yearbyred]

3 hours ago, Neila said:

Just seen on social media that comets TV is to be launched at this meeting. Is this a good thing or a bad thing ?? IMO it may stop families/ groups coming to pay £x at Northside but can pay say £14 and several people will sit at home watching the stream, therefore the club loses a lot of admission money. Any more thoughts on this

Well as an away supporter who wasn’t going to make the trip, the club will be getting revenue from me if I buy the stream.

Lots of tracks are doing it these days so I assume it’s a benefit to the clubs rather than having a negative impact.

[Triple.H.]

4 hours ago, Neila said:

Just seen on social media that comets TV is to be launched at this meeting. Is this a good thing or a bad thing ?? IMO it may stop families/ groups coming to pay £x at Northside but can pay say £14 and several people will sit at home watching the stream, therefore the club loses a lot of admission money. Any more thoughts on this

Surely you just put a block on purchases within a certain distance of the stadium.

[Fromafar]

4 hours ago, Neila said:

Just seen on social media that comets TV is to be launched at this meeting. Is this a good thing or a bad thing ?? IMO it may stop families/ groups coming to pay £x at Northside but can pay say £14 and several people will sit at home watching the stream, therefore the club loses a lot of admission money. Any more thoughts on this

Not sure if good or bad thing streaming.Clubs will not release  viewing figures.Im surprised they make the steam so cheap.As I travel fair distance to home matches any dodgy weather I just stream the match.Overall streaming save me a lot of money though ,but at least the Club get some income from me.

[Bear_Bottom]

4 hours ago, Neila said:

Just seen on social media that comets TV is to be launched at this meeting. Is this a good thing or a bad thing ?? IMO it may stop families/ groups coming to pay £x at Northside but can pay say £14 and several people will sit at home watching the stream, therefore the club loses a lot of admission money. Any more thoughts on this

[SteelShoe]

6 hours ago, LisaColette said:

They can just stop doing it if it affects the gate too much. Good on them for testing it and see how it does. 

I believe It adversely affected the gate at Glasgow so they stopped streaming.

Why encourage people to sit at home on a lovely day, miss  positives such as fresh air, the crack with fellow supporters, sharing a beer or an ice cream, getting involved in generating atmosphere etc etc. Just don't get it. Streaming won't save clubs when the crowds have gone and nobody wants to go because nobody else goes.

 

Edited 23 hours ago by SteelShoe

[SteelShoe]

3 hours ago, Fromafar said:

Not sure if good or bad thing streaming.Clubs will not release  viewing figures.Im surprised they make the steam so cheap.As I travel fair distance to home matches any dodgy weather I just stream the match.Overall streaming save me a lot of money though ,but at least the Club get some income from me.

Wonder if BSN release viewing figures ?. It would be useful if clubs currently streaming released some data but this is improbable.

In the personal case you put ie where you travel a good distance and the weather is dodgy then I can see the logic in paying for the stream, it makes sense.

The issue I have is that streaming in all likelyhood will not be watched by people outside of the combined Speedway demographic so in all likelyhood won't attract any new fans. Any income is drawn from a defined pool of people and it could be argued it is too cheap relative to admission cost.

With re to Comets TV,  it would be understandable to stream matches against Poole, Plymouth , Oxford and Scunthorpe. Hopefully the home fans would still attend in good weather but it may persuade fans not directly from Workington to stream. If the  forecast was a bit dodgy some would resort to the stream.

For the northern meetings against Glasgow, Edinburgh, Berwick and Redcar who have a decent away following then the case for streaming has to be less compelling from a financial standpoint. Without data though all of this is supposition.

If clubs keep accurate attendance data then any impacts of streaming could be better assessed. Hope it goes well for the Comets but  personally I am circumspect on whether there will be financial and attendance benefits.

 

Edited 21 hours ago by SteelShoe

[scaramanga]

4 hours ago, Triple.H. said:

Surely you just put a block on purchases within a certain distance of the stadium.

impossible to do unless you wipe out all internet most people use vpn or similar so cant trace location that easy to block it 

hope the coverage is as good as some tracks 

the dust issue might stop a few paying for stream if cameras cant get full track coverage 

[Triple.H.]

1 minute ago, scaramanga said:

impossible to do unless you wipe out all internet most people use vpn or similar so cant trace location that easy to block it 

hope the coverage is as good as some tracks 

the dust issue might stop a few paying for stream if cameras cant get full track coverage 

Don't Edinburgh put a block on locals watching online ?

Unless they're ill etc and unable to attend

I'm fairly sure I read it somewhere a few years back

If not the people in the white coats are coming for me with a white one with very long sleeves 

[LisaColette]

2 hours ago, SteelShoe said:

I believe It adversely affected the gate at Glasgow so they stopped streaming.

Why encourage people to sit at home on a lovely day, miss  positives such as fresh air, the crack with fellow supporters, sharing a beer or an ice cream, getting involved in generating atmosphere etc etc. Just don't get it. Streaming won't save clubs when the crowds have gone and nobody wants to go because nobody else goes.

 

Maybe just stream against southern teams 😉

[mikebv]

9 minutes ago, LisaColette said:

Maybe just stream against southern teams 😉

That would appear the most sensible approach for the "Northern Teams" wouldn't it?

And vice versa for those in the south who want to stream...

It is a two way thing in that streaming may stop some from attending, but, on those nights when the weather is dodgy, and you decide to not risk it, you can then get the stream if the meeting actually runs...

So the club gets some money that they wouldn't have ..

For me and my lad we save £45 by streaming, plus the saving on burgers, drinks etc...

Maybe the stream pricing is too low? 

Edited 20 hours ago by mikebv

[LisaColette]

5 minutes ago, mikebv said:

That would appear the most sensible approach for the "Northern Teams" wouldn't it?

And vice versa for those in the south who want to stream...

It is a two way thing in that streaming may stop some from attending, but, on those nights when the weather is dodgy, and you decide to not risk it, you can then get the stream if the meeting actually runs...

So the club gets some money that they wouldn't have ..

For me and my lad we save £45 by streaming, plus the saving on burgers, drinks etc...

Maybe the stream pricing is too low? 

Guess it depends how many neutrals you get watching (Worky would get the most out of anyone imo) and how many away fans. 

I think they just need to test it and see how it goes. Also Darcy prob would like a stream to watch Tate unless he gets a private one anyway? 

[Arthur54]

Redcar could win this, if the same Batchelor turns up tomorrow 

[SteelShoe]

1 hour ago, Arthur54 said:

Redcar could win this, if the same Batchelor turns up tomorrow 

On current form the Bears are favourites. Comets fans will be looking for a big response on home shale from all the team . It is a team sport, every member needs to contribute. Batch owes it to the fans and himself to deliver a No1 and captains performance. 

[szkocjasid]

13 hours ago, Neila said:

Just seen on social media that comets TV is to be launched at this meeting. Is this a good thing or a bad thing ?? IMO it may stop families/ groups coming to pay £x at Northside but can pay say £14 and several people will sit at home watching the stream, therefore the club loses a lot of admission money. Any more thoughts on this

It can work both ways, poor weather & fans staying at home buying the stream instead of attending loses money.

Poor weather & fans staying at home buying the stream, when they aren't willing to risk it, makes money.

Away fans who would normally travel but decide to save travel costs by buying the stream loses money. Away fans who were never going to attend but buy the stream makes money.

One thing that confuses me is why the stream is cheaper than admission. If clubs want fans to attend, should it not be the other way around?

[Hamster00]

18 minutes ago, szkocjasid said:

ne thing that confuses me is why the stream is cheaper than admission. If clubs want fans to attend, should it not be the other way around?

You always pay more for a live event rather than a stream/pay per view event, that’s not unique to speedway just look at streaming services/pay per view events like boxing etc

I much prefer going live as I’m sure most speedway fans do, Redcar streamed tonight but I still went to the live event.

I absolutely think streaming brings in extra revenue, people who maybe can’t afford to attend on the day but can afford to pay £10-£15 for a stream brings in extra revenue, people who maybe can’t attend due to work or otherwise may also purchase.

I can only speak from what I see week in and week out at Berwick but I certainly haven’t noticed a drop off in attendances since they started streaming a couple of seasons ago.

Edited 16 hours ago by Hamster00

[foreverblue]

25 minutes ago, szkocjasid said:

It can work both ways, poor weather & fans staying at home buying the stream instead of attending loses money.

Poor weather & fans staying at home buying the stream, when they aren't willing to risk it, makes money.

Away fans who would normally travel but decide to save travel costs by buying the stream loses money. Away fans who were never going to attend but buy the stream makes money.

One thing that confuses me is why the stream is cheaper than admission. If clubs want fans to attend, should it not be the other way around?

I don't see the confusion, go to a football premier league match, its going to cost you a  lot more than you would pay for tv.