Leicester v Sheffield Monday 21st July Live on TV

[SilentLurker]

Great heat 15 ruined because the camera has the same zoom on it required to see craters on the moon.

TNT = tinpot. 

[Gavan]

13 minutes ago, 40-38 said:

Bizarre to leave Kerr in as well.

Bad management from Stead …. Jack Holder for Kerr was the obvious choice or worse case Holder for Kerr and Sedgman for Flint 

[ytsejam]

ONE really good race all night in the last race after 14 heats of a processional yawnfest and Tatum spouts on about a "superb night of speedway and a great advert for Premiership speedway"!!....the man needs sectioning!

[midlandred]

5 minutes ago, nw42 said:

Not wanting to tempt fate but have they finally dropped the hashtag nonsense, or has it passed me by?

Yep, it had passed me by, questions for Scoddy now.

 

At last, a proper race from the top drawer. 

Four hard chargers

[SJA]

1 hour ago, AceBelle said:

Thank god we have the best trackman in England Andy Meredith he would never let this happen to NSS this is a shambles and Live on TV not good at all !!!

And I have been to the NSS at Easter and the meeting was delayed for longer because the track was a shambles. They bladed all the surface to the outside & piled it up against the airfence. 

Or maybe both tracks got heavy rain st the wrong time but you obviously know better using your one eye to get a balanced view.

[TracksideView]

9 minutes ago, SJA said:

And I have been to the NSS at Easter and the meeting was delayed for longer because the track was a shambles. They bladed all the surface to the outside & piled it up against the airfence. 

Or maybe both tracks got heavy rain st the wrong time but you obviously know better using your one eye to get a balanced view.

So your saying ripping open the starts when rain is due is the same as Belle Vue having to deal with a completely saturated track ?! 2 completely different reasons for poor track conditions, only one of which was individual fault.

But then again no doubt your legal expertise will make you a track expert as well.

[ouch]

14 minutes ago, SJA said:

And I have been to the NSS at Easter and the meeting was delayed for longer because the track was a shambles. They bladed all the surface to the outside & piled it up against the airfence. 

Or maybe both tracks got heavy rain st the wrong time but you obviously know better using your one eye to get a balanced view.

When was this? 

[IainB]

21 minutes ago, SJA said:

And I have been to the NSS at Easter and the meeting was delayed for longer because the track was a shambles. They bladed all the surface to the outside & piled it up against the airfence. 

Or maybe both tracks got heavy rain st the wrong time but you obviously know better using your one eye to get a balanced view.

Yes, that was the one that was called off by their nurse wasn't it 😂

Edited Monday at 09:15 PM by IainB

[Ajr]

Well Scotty just summed up the reason for me that crowds are dropping, ' all the past meetings are irrelevant, it's down to play offs" even worse the team that finishes top can't even pick opponents. Whats the point of finishing top. Absolutely ridiculous 

[Teromaafan]

43 minutes ago, Gavan said:

Bad management from Stead …. Jack Holder for Kerr was the obvious choice or worse case Holder for Kerr and Sedgman for Flint 

Stead was always going to use the Holders in heat 15. So putting one of them in heat 14 would mean riding in three consecutive races. Pickering was more than capable of winning heat 14 (but didn’t), so I can’t see how Stead could be criticised.

[40-38]

6 minutes ago, Teromaafan said:

Stead was always going to use the Holders in heat 15. So putting one of them in heat 14 would mean riding in three consecutive races. Pickering was more than capable of winning heat 14 (but didn’t), so I can’t see how Stead could be criticised.

I think Pickering was fine but surely you'd swap Kerr for Sedgman too. Kerr had been poor all night whereas at least Sedgman looked competitive.

Edited Monday at 09:44 PM by 40-38

[Teromaafan]

4 minutes ago, 40-38 said:

I think Pickering was fine but surely you'd swap Kerr for Sedgman too. Kerr had been poor all night whereas at least Sedgman looked competitive.

Wouldn’t disagree with that, I was just defending Stead not using Jack Holder in the race.

[Hackett]

1 hour ago, ytsejam said:

ONE really good race all night in the last race after 14 heats of a processional yawnfest and Tatum spouts on about a "superb night of speedway and a great advert for Premiership speedway"!!....the man needs sectioning!

Commentators on Sky Sports and TNT are not allowed to be negative about the meeting, game fixture they are commentating on. Devalues the product to advertisers - Ben Foster mentioned it in one of his podcasts / you tube when he was at Watford and the game was dull as. He spun a question to the interviewer on the game and they replied "you know I cant answer that ... " 

[ShanoXtra]

28 minutes ago, Hackett said:

Commentators on Sky Sports and TNT are not allowed to be negative about the meeting, game fixture they are commentating on. Devalues the product to advertisers - Ben Foster mentioned it in one of his podcasts / you tube when he was at Watford and the game was dull as. He spun a question to the interviewer on the game and they replied "you know I cant answer that ... " 

A Polish commentator was sacked for saying “this isn’t the type of speedway we come to watch” years back when it was a boring match.

[flagrag]

4 hours ago, Rob B said:

Do they not have a blade?

Yes a blade was available but the big tractor would have ripped the start and track up even more. 
 

Sometimes riders need to listen to the track curators when conditions are a little wet as both Stewart Dickson and Sheffields track curator Graham Trollope said that the starts should be left to dry after the track walks but members of both teams asked for them to be ripped up .

hence what happened with it all starting to lift and turn into clay sludge, Track curators spend hours on their tracks so they know how they react to different actions 

[BluPanther]

Super racing... 🤣🤣🤣

[tellboy]

7 hours ago, TracksideView said:

So your saying ripping open the starts when rain is due is the same as Belle Vue having to deal with a completely saturated track ?! 2  completely different reasons for poor track conditions, only one of which was individual fault.

But then again no doubt your legal expertise will make you a track expert as well.

I remember Leicester watering the track when rain was due about 1.5-2 hrs before a meeting.A shower come for about 5 minutes and the match got called off.Poor track management there at times.

[Odds On]

Big out shout out to the track staff for preparing a track that was raceable, the rain at 4.30 was torrential.

Fair play to Tatum, Nicholls and Louis, thought they were very interesting and knowledgeable.

Fricke looked good, match winner for me was Howarth.

A decent sized crowd in attendance as well.

Enjoyed it last night.

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

6 hours ago, flagrag said:

Yes a blade was available but the big tractor would have ripped the start and track up even more. 
 

Sometimes riders need to listen to the track curators when conditions are a little wet as both Stewart Dickson and Sheffields track curator Graham Trollope said that the starts should be left to dry after the track walks but members of both teams asked for them to be ripped up .

hence what happened with it all starting to lift and turn into clay sludge, Track curators spend hours on their tracks so they know how they react to different actions 

Then perhaps don't ask/listen to the riders when it comes to track prep in these circumstances....

[SJA]

9 hours ago, TracksideView said:

So your saying ripping open the starts when rain is due is the same as Belle Vue having to deal with a completely saturated track ?! 2 completely different reasons for poor track conditions, only one of which was individual fault.

But then again no doubt your legal expertise will make you a track expert as well.

I'm not saying that. That is why you are unable to use a quote. But well identified that as with 99% of spectators, I have no track prep experience. 

On TV Masters said the riders were warned if the work took place that they wanted it was likely to make the track worse. This would appear to have been the case. 

I thought the track staff turned it round quickly. It would appear to me that they have one of the better group of volunteers. Based on visiting all tracks at least once a season for the last three seasons they appear more organised than others. Air fence panels are changed much quicker than elsewhere. And last night again demonstrated their willingness to get the job done with minimum fuss.