89buttons Posted 20 hours ago Report Share Posted 20 hours ago 34 minutes ago, ouch said: Will Tate finally get going as we know he can? Obviously injuries have really hampered his progress so far, but has he actually demonstrated anything to show he’s got it in him to take a step forward on the clear early potential he showed as a rookie? Big season for his whole career path this one imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panther1997 Posted 20 hours ago Report Share Posted 20 hours ago (edited) 2 hours ago, Phannan said: New season, Jack Holder still a dick …Bomber still banging in the mileage Is this a cryptic way of saying Bomber is guesting for Holder?🤔 or simply stating facts?😆 Edited 19 hours ago by Panther1997 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phannan Posted 18 hours ago Report Share Posted 18 hours ago 1 hour ago, Panther1997 said: Is this a cryptic way of saying Bomber is guesting for Holder?🤔 or simply stating facts?😆 Bit of both really. True whichever way you look at it 😁.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit59 Posted 14 hours ago Report Share Posted 14 hours ago Do Bellevue stream their meetings? T I A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS50 Posted 14 hours ago Report Share Posted 14 hours ago 23 minutes ago, Bandit59 said: Do Bellevue stream their meetings? T I A https://www.bvtv.live/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShanoXtra Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago C.Holder looks fast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago 5 minutes ago, ShanoXtra said: C.Holder looks fast He did at the PCMT.... Flying.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago 9 minutes ago, ShanoXtra said: C.Holder looks fast He had the lowest winning time in the first 4 heats though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShanoXtra Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago 18 minutes ago, BluPanther said: He had the lowest winning time in the first 4 heats though... 18 minutes ago, BluPanther said: He had the lowest winning time in the first 4 heats though... Yeah I saw that, but impressive for someone who is a lot older than Kurtz jack and Bewley (the top boys). Disappointed about the lack of racing though, thought this track was the best in the country 👀 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moranboys Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, ShanoXtra said: Yeah I saw that, but impressive for someone who is a lot older than Kurtz jack and Bewley (the top boys). Disappointed about the lack of racing though, thought this track was the best in the country 👀 Scoreline pretty close but racing nearly sent me to sleep...🥱 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted 9 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 9 hours ago All tracks can serve up dull meetings even the best ones like the NSS especially early in the season. You’ll get more entertaining ones than dull ones around there though over the course of the season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjcone44 Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 15 minutes ago, Moranboys said: Scoreline pretty close but racing nearly sent me to sleep...🥱 you should get a good night sleep on Thursday 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago Absolute garbage which is unusual for Belle Vue Belle Vue same old story will often win at home but lose away Unsure why they went for cairns while currently Mulford is a better rider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Gavan said: Absolute garbage which is unusual for Belle Vue Belle Vue same old story will often win at home but lose away Unsure why they went for cairns while currently Mulford is a better rider Cairns has been hyped up massively over the last 2 or 3 years but its clear to see he is out of his depth at this level. There has been many, many better British teenage prospects over the years than him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago Ive seen a lot worse, if that is a boring match at bv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, Pinny said: Cairns has been hyped up massively over the last 2 or 3 years but its clear to see he is out of his depth at this level. There has been many, many better British teenage prospects over the years than him. Also cairns has had a growth spur in the tail end of last season which won't help when most riders are not big these days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bringbackHalifax Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago I believe that Papa Cairns has splashed the dosh, way too much, way too soon. Will has to do the hard yards and stand on his own two feet and develop at his own pace. Fancy vans, top engines, belt drives, Karger ignition boxes handed on the solid silver plate is a false dawn. Needs to work on his talent not his gear. He is talented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, bringbackHalifax said: I believe that Papa Cairns has splashed the dosh, way too much, way too soon. Will has to do the hard yards and stand on his own two feet and develop at his own pace. Fancy vans, top engines, belt drives, Karger ignition boxes handed on the solid silver plate is a false dawn. Needs to work on his talent not his gear. He is talented. The most recent one I remember was Kyle Bickley at the same age being highly rated in the under 15s and national league etc. fancy van and kit and ended up doing nothing. Kennett at 16 was a far bigger talent, ripping up the old Premier League for Rye. Then you had Olly Allen, Simon Stead, Chris Neath, Andrew Appleton, Ross Brady plus more all far better at 16 than Cairns. be fair to give him the season to see how he goes but so far it looks like hes just another over rated young British rider. Not his fault but the usual suspects for over hyping him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, bringbackHalifax said: I believe that Papa Cairns has splashed the dosh, way too much, way too soon. Will has to do the hard yards and stand on his own two feet and develop at his own pace. Fancy vans, top engines, belt drives, Karger ignition boxes handed on the solid silver plate is a false dawn. Needs to work on his talent not his gear. He is talented. The most recent one I remember was Kyle Bickley at the same age being highly rated in the under 15s and national league etc. fancy van and kit and ended up doing nothing. Kennett at 16 was a far bigger talent, ripping up the old Premier League for Rye. Then you had Olly Allen, Simon Stead, Chris Neath, Andrew Appleton, Ross Brady plus more all far better at 16 than Cairns. be fair to give him the season to see how he goes but so far it looks like hes just another over rated young British rider. Not his fault but the usual suspects for over hyping him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago So, a young British kid (once again), goes from being a future World Champion, to being just another overrated rider... And. All in one meeting!!!!😁 Hyping these kids up does no one any favours, yet plenty seem to do it... "I watched him ride after the match and his times were close to those in the meeting itself"!! Was one particular pearl of wisdom I read about him about 18 months ago.. Riding on your own, without three far more experienced riders nailing you on turns one and two is a bit different from riding on your own, and your times , and finishing positions, in those races will get hit quite severely... Being fast is one thing, being a Speedway rider is another... Let the kid develop at his own pace, like all should be allowed to, as the entry level for UK riders is quite a low bar, therefore one or two can look "amazing" when riding against their peer group at 15/16... If these lads are Championship second strings by the end of 2027 then they are on track to become Premiership second strings, around two years later, (at 20/21 years old).... If they reach that level, then by 23 or so, Premiership HL and International level will be there "glide path"... Not many are Woffinden, Bewley or Robert Lambert level by 21 years of age, so just let these lads develop... And the aim isn't to have future World Champs, the aim is to fill team spaces with UK lads, something the sport desperately needs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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