PersonalResponsibility Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago 26 minutes ago, gjcone44 said: i dont think zmarzlic is riding poor, he is still on top of his game , i just think some of the other riders have upped their game, but not as consistantly. I think he's a classic case of just doing enough. Look at last night, none of the other finalists managed double figures in Landshut, but he just keeps getting to the final. I'd love to see him be truly tested but I don't think he will be this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShanoXtra Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 40 minutes ago, PersonalResponsibility said: I think he's a classic case of just doing enough. Look at last night, none of the other finalists managed double figures in Landshut, but he just keeps getting to the final. I'd love to see him be truly tested but I don't think he will be this season. The problem is and always will be the consistency and that is why Zmarzlik is the best. Even when he doesn’t win he gets damage limitation. You have Dudek and Lambert performing for Torun but didn’t show up yesterday. And same for a lot of the others, even bewley who I like can disappear of any meeting. Zmarzlik is always there or there about. Last night showed me that Kurtz is really ready to bring this battle. He started OK but then had a mechanical issue but still when required in the last two races (one to get into the LCQ and the other to win it) he found what he needed and made it happen. So he is showing to me he can still make a poor start to a meeting turn around into damage limitation just like Zmarzlik. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago I’m interested to know if these engine failures we are seeing are these ignition boxes, 2 weeks back zmarzlik had a bike failure on the start line in Rzeszow (hell hadn't froze over)and last night Kurtz had one, he came out on same bike in next ride so wasn’t an engine blow up, it’s happened to some others too, although any bike can fail I thought the days of top riders having bike Breakdowns were well and truly behind us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, PersonalResponsibility said: I think he's a classic case of just doing enough. Look at last night, none of the other finalists managed double figures in Landshut, but he just keeps getting to the final. I'd love to see him be truly tested but I don't think he will be this season. The points scoring system helps others more than Bartosz IMO .Keeping the Top men close.Even Bartosz has that sussed though.The one will say though is ,he is not gating as consistent as he used too over the last couple of seasons whether that is bike up or not.Kurtz seems to be his main challenger for consistency.Shame for Bewley getting injured he certainly looked in great form.Woryna and MJJ have added something to this Seasons GPs . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 46 minutes ago, ShanoXtra said: The problem is and always will be the consistency and that is why Zmarzlik is the best. Even when he doesn’t win he gets damage limitation. You have Dudek and Lambert performing for Torun but didn’t show up yesterday. And same for a lot of the others, even bewley who I like can disappear of any meeting. Zmarzlik is always there or there about. Last night showed me that Kurtz is really ready to bring this battle. He started OK but then had a mechanical issue but still when required in the last two races (one to get into the LCQ and the other to win it) he found what he needed and made it happen. So he is showing to me he can still make a poor start to a meeting turn around into damage limitation just like Zmarzlik. 10 years in the GPs and he never finished lower than 5th that is ridiculous consistency and astonishingly he is only 31 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Fromafar said: The points scoring system helps others more than Bartosz IMO .Keeping the Top men close.Even Bartosz has that sussed though.The one will say though is ,he is not gating as consistent as he used too over the last couple of seasons whether that is bike up or not.Kurtz seems to be his main challenger for consistency.Shame for Bewley getting injured he certainly looked in great form.Woryna and MJJ have added something to this Seasons GPs . My observations of zmarzlik/kurtz is zmarzlik not a gator Kurtz is, zmarzlik forces openings,Kurtz is a clever opportunist bit like woffinden was, zmarzlik is not easily muscled out of the way, Kurtz away from belle vue seems to be, I think in the rough and tough world of the GPs I think zmarzlik has the edge but if you can make gates like Kurtz your always going to be in the mix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 3 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: My observations of zmarzlik/kurtz is zmarzlik not a gator Kurtz is, zmarzlik forces openings,Kurtz is a clever opportunist bit like woffinden was, zmarzlik is not easily muscled out of the way, Kurtz away from belle vue seems to be, I think in the rough and tough world of the GPs I think zmarzlik has the edge but if you can make gates like Kurtz your always going to be in the mix Would agree.No can replicate Bartosz’s dive bomb passes though how he manages to get the bike turned and keep up the momentum is brilliantly executed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjcone44 Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago how he misses their front wheel when he passes, very close including dirt deflector.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago Why did Madsen qualify directly to the final over Holder. They had an identical record - 3 3 2 2 1 = 11 but Holder beat Madsen in their final heat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted 4 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 11 minutes ago, Col said: Why did Madsen qualify directly to the final over Holder. They had an identical record - 3 3 2 2 1 = 11 but Holder beat Madsen in their final heat. Because if wins, 2nds 3rds etc can’t split them it’s done on their respective fastest time in the GP. Edited 4 hours ago by racers and royals 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShanoXtra Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago One from Czech SGP. I hope anyone who watches, enjoys, happy Sunday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAST GATER Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 2 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: My observations of zmarzlik/kurtz is zmarzlik not a gator Kurtz is, zmarzlik forces openings,Kurtz is a clever opportunist bit like woffinden was, zmarzlik is not easily muscled out of the way, Kurtz away from belle vue seems to be, I think in the rough and tough world of the GPs I think zmarzlik has the edge but if you can make gates like Kurtz your always going to be in the mix Kurtz is the new Hancock ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, FAST GATER said: Kurtz is the new Hancock ! Kurtz passes riders on the outside, time and time again... Hence he stalked Madsen for four laps riding the dirt, inches from the fence. . Greg would have kerb crawled perfrctly to see if he could under pass him.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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