PersonalResponsibility Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 26 minutes ago, gjcone44 said: i dont think zmarzlic is riding poor, he is still on top of his game , i just think some of the other riders have upped their game, but not as consistantly. I think he's a classic case of just doing enough. Look at last night, none of the other finalists managed double figures in Landshut, but he just keeps getting to the final. I'd love to see him be truly tested but I don't think he will be this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShanoXtra Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 40 minutes ago, PersonalResponsibility said: I think he's a classic case of just doing enough. Look at last night, none of the other finalists managed double figures in Landshut, but he just keeps getting to the final. I'd love to see him be truly tested but I don't think he will be this season. The problem is and always will be the consistency and that is why Zmarzlik is the best. Even when he doesn’t win he gets damage limitation. You have Dudek and Lambert performing for Torun but didn’t show up yesterday. And same for a lot of the others, even bewley who I like can disappear of any meeting. Zmarzlik is always there or there about. Last night showed me that Kurtz is really ready to bring this battle. He started OK but then had a mechanical issue but still when required in the last two races (one to get into the LCQ and the other to win it) he found what he needed and made it happen. So he is showing to me he can still make a poor start to a meeting turn around into damage limitation just like Zmarzlik. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 I’m interested to know if these engine failures we are seeing are these ignition boxes, 2 weeks back zmarzlik had a bike failure on the start line in Rzeszow (hell hadn't froze over)and last night Kurtz had one, he came out on same bike in next ride so wasn’t an engine blow up, it’s happened to some others too, although any bike can fail I thought the days of top riders having bike Breakdowns were well and truly behind us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 1 hour ago, PersonalResponsibility said: I think he's a classic case of just doing enough. Look at last night, none of the other finalists managed double figures in Landshut, but he just keeps getting to the final. I'd love to see him be truly tested but I don't think he will be this season. The points scoring system helps others more than Bartosz IMO .Keeping the Top men close.Even Bartosz has that sussed though.The one will say though is ,he is not gating as consistent as he used too over the last couple of seasons whether that is bike up or not.Kurtz seems to be his main challenger for consistency.Shame for Bewley getting injured he certainly looked in great form.Woryna and MJJ have added something to this Seasons GPs . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 46 minutes ago, ShanoXtra said: The problem is and always will be the consistency and that is why Zmarzlik is the best. Even when he doesn’t win he gets damage limitation. You have Dudek and Lambert performing for Torun but didn’t show up yesterday. And same for a lot of the others, even bewley who I like can disappear of any meeting. Zmarzlik is always there or there about. Last night showed me that Kurtz is really ready to bring this battle. He started OK but then had a mechanical issue but still when required in the last two races (one to get into the LCQ and the other to win it) he found what he needed and made it happen. So he is showing to me he can still make a poor start to a meeting turn around into damage limitation just like Zmarzlik. 10 years in the GPs and he never finished lower than 5th that is ridiculous consistency and astonishingly he is only 31 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 5 minutes ago, Fromafar said: The points scoring system helps others more than Bartosz IMO .Keeping the Top men close.Even Bartosz has that sussed though.The one will say though is ,he is not gating as consistent as he used too over the last couple of seasons whether that is bike up or not.Kurtz seems to be his main challenger for consistency.Shame for Bewley getting injured he certainly looked in great form.Woryna and MJJ have added something to this Seasons GPs . My observations of zmarzlik/kurtz is zmarzlik not a gator Kurtz is, zmarzlik forces openings,Kurtz is a clever opportunist bit like woffinden was, zmarzlik is not easily muscled out of the way, Kurtz away from belle vue seems to be, I think in the rough and tough world of the GPs I think zmarzlik has the edge but if you can make gates like Kurtz your always going to be in the mix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 3 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: My observations of zmarzlik/kurtz is zmarzlik not a gator Kurtz is, zmarzlik forces openings,Kurtz is a clever opportunist bit like woffinden was, zmarzlik is not easily muscled out of the way, Kurtz away from belle vue seems to be, I think in the rough and tough world of the GPs I think zmarzlik has the edge but if you can make gates like Kurtz your always going to be in the mix Would agree.No can replicate Bartosz’s dive bomb passes though how he manages to get the bike turned and keep up the momentum is brilliantly executed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjcone44 Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 how he misses their front wheel when he passes, very close including dirt deflector.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 Why did Madsen qualify directly to the final over Holder. They had an identical record - 3 3 2 2 1 = 11 but Holder beat Madsen in their final heat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted May 24 Author Report Share Posted May 24 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Col said: Why did Madsen qualify directly to the final over Holder. They had an identical record - 3 3 2 2 1 = 11 but Holder beat Madsen in their final heat. Because if wins, 2nds 3rds etc can’t split them it’s done on their respective fastest time in the GP. Edited May 24 by racers and royals 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShanoXtra Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 One from Czech SGP. I hope anyone who watches, enjoys, happy Sunday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAST GATER Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 2 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: My observations of zmarzlik/kurtz is zmarzlik not a gator Kurtz is, zmarzlik forces openings,Kurtz is a clever opportunist bit like woffinden was, zmarzlik is not easily muscled out of the way, Kurtz away from belle vue seems to be, I think in the rough and tough world of the GPs I think zmarzlik has the edge but if you can make gates like Kurtz your always going to be in the mix Kurtz is the new Hancock ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 2 hours ago, FAST GATER said: Kurtz is the new Hancock ! Kurtz passes riders on the outside, time and time again... Hence he stalked Madsen for four laps riding the dirt, inches from the fence. . Greg would have kerb crawled perfrctly to see if he could under pass him.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 (edited) 20 hours ago, PersonalResponsibility said: I think he's a classic case of just doing enough. Look at last night, none of the other finalists managed double figures in Landshut, but he just keeps getting to the final. I'd love to see him be truly tested but I don't think he will be this season. Zmarzlik is extremely good their is no getting away from it, he is a very good at all aspects of riding, good control, balance, trapping in fact it’s hard to find fault with anything, which is why he has won 6 world titles. But it’s his consistency and the fact that he rarely gets himself into any trouble through falls or injuries, that makes him stand out, despite riding sometimes on the edge. The only riders that appear to give him some trouble are Laguta and Kurtz and Laguta was stopped by the authorities governing the sport. As some have said he has years left at the top if he wants it Edited May 25 by bigcatdiary 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago On 5/24/2026 at 2:21 PM, THE DEAN MACHINE said: 10 years in the GPs and he never finished lower than 5th that is ridiculous consistency and astonishingly he is only 31 Bettered only by Ove Fundin......10 years and finished no lower than 3rd. And that was in the era of 1) a single meeting world final...no room for error, not even an engine failure 2) strong opponents ie Briggs, Moore, Craven, Knutson, Plechanov, Crutcher. Could possibly have been 12 years running if the Swedish speedway authorities hadn't banned him in 1966, as he came back in 1967 and won his 5th title. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 1 hour ago, OveFundinFan said: Bettered only by Ove Fundin......10 years and finished no lower than 3rd. Ove Fundin was in 15 finals altogether and finished in the top 3 11 times. Jason Crump also finished in the top 3 10 times running from 2001 to 2010, bookended with two fourth places, 2000 and 2011. Edited 1 hour ago by norbold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitelinehugger Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago On 5/24/2026 at 7:59 PM, mikebv said: Greg would have kerb crawled perfrctly to see if he could under pass Prostitutes kerb crawl you should no that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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