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BRITISH U21 FINAL, REDCAR Sunday, June 7, 2026 17:00 Live on BSN


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1 hour ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Glad ref Jarvis was strong enough to award the final. The others in the heat certainly didn’t deserve a second chance in the race. Thought the right 4 made up the final. Best two qualified straight through and home advantage saw the Redcar pair through. Think Jody Scott the better of the two Redcar riders.

How is it everytime Ace Pijper is on either BSN or racing against Poole he is throwing a wobbly? Every single time the toys come out of the pram.

Well done Cooper Rushen. 16 years old and already out of the reserve berth at Poole. The next Mark Loram/Michael Lee (with better temperament)

Did not watch it personally, I suppose Ace said he will get him back next time!!

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2 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Glad ref Jarvis was strong enough to award the final. The others in the heat certainly didn’t deserve a second chance in the race. Thought the right 4 made up the final. Best two qualified straight through and home advantage saw the Redcar pair through. Think Jody Scott the better of the two Redcar riders.

How is it everytime Ace Pijper is on either BSN or racing against Poole he is throwing a wobbly? Every single time the toys come out of the pram.

Well done Cooper Rushen. 16 years old and already out of the reserve berth at Poole. The next Mark Loram/Michael Lee (with better temperament)

Think Ace was one of the top 2 riders.

If he didn't have a bike failure on the last bend whilst comfortably leading his 4th race he would have had 14 points and been the top qualifier.

 

Well done to Cooper for winning the meeting.

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Well done to Cooper he is the real deal and terrific personality, comes over well for one so young.Ace needs to stop looking round to see where the rider behind is,it was a50/50 call in-the final .IM0 Cairns went in hard and fast but he held his line Ace tried to keep on the inside but he was too late.He seems too want to go fighting with everyone .His temperament is suspect. Not good in this sport.Jordy Loftus is a talent and stylish.

Having not seen him ride before I was with Ollie Binns.

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3 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Glad ref Jarvis was strong enough to award the final. The others in the heat certainly didn’t deserve a second chance in the race. Thought the right 4 made up the final. Best two qualified straight through and home advantage saw the Redcar pair through. Think Jody Scott the better of the two Redcar riders.

How is it everytime Ace Pijper is on either BSN or racing against Poole he is throwing a wobbly? Every single time the toys come out of the pram.

Well done Cooper Rushen. 16 years old and already out of the reserve berth at Poole. The next Mark Loram/Michael Lee (with better temperament)

When you say better temperament, I take it you're talking about Lee? Mick Lee, at 16, finished his first season at Boston with an average of 9.13. The following year (17), he finished the season with an average of 9.22 in the British League Division One, which, imo, was the hardest league in the world at the time. He was also the British U21 champion that year.

Following season (18), topped the averages in the British League with an average of 10.64. Also won the senior British Final and was part of England's winning World Team Cup, and made his 1st world final. Cooper is a great talent, but a bit premature to say he's the next Mark Loram or Mick Lee, imo.

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11 hours ago, WookieboyDon said:

He doesn’t look well. I can imagine that the loss of his father has had a big effect, especially given he was his carer for a number of years up until Brian’s passing.

Its been well documented that he is permanently in pain as well, that and quite possibly some strong pain meds won't help

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8 hours ago, tyler42 said:

When you say better temperament, I take it you're talking about Lee? Mick Lee, at 16, finished his first season at Boston with an average of 9.13. The following year (17), he finished the season with an average of 9.22 in the British League Division One, which, imo, was the hardest league in the world at the time. He was also the British U21 champion that year.

Following season (18), topped the averages in the British League with an average of 10.64. Also won the senior British Final and was part of England's winning World Team Cup, and made his 1st world final. Cooper is a great talent, but a bit premature to say he's the next Mark Loram or Mick Lee, imo.

The talent pool was spread much wider in those days thanks to the number of tracks, so if you did have talent, it was much easier to achieve a higher average. Now with only 6 teams in the top league that "talent" is now much more compacted meaning it's far harder to achieve such an average as Lee did and also unfortunately many more of the riders in today's field will never get anywhere near a career out of the sport.

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9 hours ago, Triple.H. said:

In very  poor taste IMO.

I actually liked Mr Shovlar's post where he criticised your original post. 

OK, I made a mistake and poor judgment, I apologised for it and as I said, didn't mean any harm by it.

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Irrespective of many people not being able to watch due to technical difficulties, they should think themselves lucky as they did not have to endure the abysmal camera coverage and woeful commentary.

Only when replays of the races were shown from different angles could you appreciate any race as then you could see what was happening.

Do not even go their with the commentary.

As many have already posted, BSN leaves a lot to be desired even if it is the last stand TV coverage. 

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39 minutes ago, M.D said:

OK, I made a mistake and poor judgment, I apologised for it and as I said, didn't mean any harm by it.

Not good enough! You should resign! I'm afraid we're going to need to destroy your life... it is 2026 afterall 😉

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40 minutes ago, secsy1 said:

Irrespective of many people not being able to watch due to technical difficulties, they should think themselves lucky as they did not have to endure the abysmal camera coverage and woeful commentary.

Only when replays of the races were shown from different angles could you appreciate any race as then you could see what was happening.

Do not even go their with the commentary.

As many have already posted, BSN leaves a lot to be desired even if it is the last stand TV coverage. 

We got some lovely shots of the ground though 😂

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37 minutes ago, secsy1 said:

Irrespective of many people not being able to watch due to technical difficulties, they should think themselves lucky as they did not have to endure the abysmal camera coverage and woeful commentary.

Only when replays of the races were shown from different angles could you appreciate any race as then you could see what was happening.

Do not even go their with the commentary.

As many have already posted, BSN leaves a lot to be desired even if it is the last stand TV coverage. 

I watched it right from the start of racing with a couple of riders captions being a bit out but corrected.BsN is great value for money if you have a package,but suppose there are some that will always find fault.

You obviously didn’t watch the GPs at the Weekend or you would have been outraged.🤔😂

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22 minutes ago, secsy1 said:

Irrespective of many people not being able to watch due to technical difficulties, they should think themselves lucky as they did not have to endure the abysmal camera coverage and woeful commentary.

Only when replays of the races were shown from different angles could you appreciate any race as then you could see what was happening.

Do not even go their with the commentary.

As many have already posted, BSN leaves a lot to be desired even if it is the last stand TV coverage. 

It is very much a "UK Speedway thing" isn't it...

Your comments will no doubt generate plenty of "what do you expect?", or "we should be lucky they cover the sport"...

Fans are now conditioned to make allowances for UK Speedway...

The reality of course is that so much of what UK Speedway delivers is down to an absence of any defined "Quality Control"...

Phil Morris had the amazing ideas to start meetings on time, have a 2 min clock visible to fans, had those coloured helmet starting mats, and told tracks to make the centre greens look good with the sponsors clearly displayed...

Imagine needing someone to tell you that?..:rolleyes:  

Amazing that so much off track mediocrity is delivered by the very people who wouldn't be too pleased if the lads on track delivered the same..

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Some promoters haven’t got a clue how to run meetings, they think people have unlimited attention spans and can watch meetings that takes hours to run.

Its like they said on 360 speedway this week, its needs to be bang bang bang, slick operation and always something to keep the public interested between races.

They are doing the same things and playing the same music they were 30 years ago.

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1 hour ago, marko said:

Some promoters haven’t got a clue how to run meetings, they think people have unlimited attention spans and can watch meetings that takes hours to run.

Its like they said on 360 speedway this week, its needs to be bang bang bang, slick operation and always something to keep the public interested between races.

They are doing the same things and playing the same music they were 30 years ago.

Ex riders, and sponsors of riders who take over clubs, are, in the main, the ones who provide the sport....

They are too close to the sport and know nothing  other than what has gone before, therefore, do pretty much, exactly the same..

The raw material of a fast, high octane, colourful, exciting sport, all done in a minute so perfect for modern day attention spans, is clearly something that has potential to be exploited.  

However, white, middle aged males, with almost zero marketing, media and entrepreneurial skills, certainly need some people working with them who do possess those skills...

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