Berwick Bandits vs Poole Pirates 8th August Championship

[DSC67]

I would agree with Havelocks’ comment regarding the floodlights, I was in the stand and it definitely seemed a bit gloomy, I was surprised the didn’t put them on earlier than they did 

[Bandit59]

17 minutes ago, DSC67 said:

I would agree with Havelocks’ comment regarding the floodlights, I was in the stand and it definitely seemed a bit gloomy, I was surprised the didn’t put them on earlier than they did 

Think they needed another 50p  for the meter,if that's the only floodlights that work they better get their fingers out with the last 3 meetings or they won't see a thing 

[crescent girl]

10 hours ago, allthegearbutnaeidea said:

Typical Cairns that’s three times in two trips to Shielfield, dirty dirty rider he needs to sort it out as he has the talent.

Cairns?  I think you must mean the other one.    Will Cairns is in full control of his bike as far as I've seen....

[crescent girl]

When we wrote in last night's programme about Poole's management having apparently been in disarray during their June visit, it was expected they'd be in better shape this time.

Instead, the strange allocation of riders in crucial races, etc, was worse.  Plus, how about Havvy spending a lengthy time on the phone to Willie Dish, arguing the Cooper Rushen exclusion? 

On a brighter note, it was an impressive display of team spirit when the entire Bandits team came up from the pits to check on the stricken Reid Battye.

Plus, the noise in the stand before, during and after the last couple of races was really impressive.

[Tim Templeton]

If Kennett said he was knackered and blown out when Havvy wanted to put him in heat 14, surely that explains Kennett's absence? 

[Steve Shovlar]

10 hours ago, spin king junior said:

Word from Havvy regarding not using Kennett - must say, I find Havvys post meeting words quite pathetic. Comes across as a complete sore loser. 

 

"Obviously I am a bit gutted at the end, but overall very proud of the lads. They did a great job and you know, poor Coops (Cooper Rushen) getting excluded for that. He got by him and the throttle goes two ways you know. I didnt agree with the call at all. Then they expected us to go out in the dark for heat fifteen, so I spoke to the referee and said it is dangerous. He agreed with me, so what did they do? They put three lights on the back straight that shone onto the football pitch and there was nothing on the corners. The corners were pitch black, you couldn't see a thing and listen, speedway is a dangerous sport as it is and it doesn't need to be made anymore dangerous. But we got the bonus point. Of course I would have liked the win, it would have been good. It clearly meant a lot to them, they were dancing around as if they had won the league. They won't even make the play-offs! But as I said, I was proud of the boys. They had a couple of off races but that is to be expected here. If you can get out the traps and get a bit of fresh air between you and them then its great. But It's like a night and day difference. If you're behind and you're getting roasted with shale it's a horrible battle. I really wanted to use Eddie (Kennett) a bit more but the guy was blown out. Really feeling it. Absolutely knackered. He's 40 years old and been out the sport for a few years and he just couldn't do it. I wanted to use him in heat 14 but he said he was done. I knew we needed him so I did a deal and said if you cant do 14 you will have to do 15, which he did. But it is what it is and on a different day we would have won that."

 

 

Yep. Four and a half minutes of intense physical riding would completely knacker any fairly fit 40 year old. So much so they are completely spent. And it’s not 4 and a half minutes in one lump. Come on what a load of bollocks. 

[foreverblue]

32 minutes ago, Tim Templeton said:

If Kennett said he was knackered and blown out when Havvy wanted to put him in heat 14, surely that explains Kennett's absence? 

He had only had 4 rides, he hadn't even had a r/r, don't believe him, usual Havvy excuses. Doing a deal to use him in heat 15 and not 14 sounds ridiculous when heat 14 was an easier race for him.

Edited yesterday at 09:00 AM by foreverblue

[Bandit59]

44 minutes ago, Tim Templeton said:

If Kennett said he was knackered and blown out when Havvy wanted to put him in heat 14, surely that explains Kennett's absence? 

What's the difference between heat 14and 15 plus heat 14 easier to win !!! ,poor excuse 

[Bandits4eva]

11 hours ago, Bagpuss said:

They really don't. He is remarkably controlled and safe for a sixteen year old, if a little exuberant. Sounds like he was correctly excluded this evening but the Etheridge incident last time was clearly Jye's own fault.

Chris… you weren’t there pal… that was beyond exuberant last night and his move really could have hurt Reid badly…. he was erratic with Jack in the Cup meeting at Poole… the kicking out at Jye in the first running of their heat in the return here… he is building a bit of a reputation but no doubt you defend him as he wears the Stars colours..

GB does need good youth coming through and Cooper is head and shoulders above most but he needs to calm it down…. 

[Steve Shovlar]

Cooper certainly doesn’t need to calm it down at all. He is a very exciting exuberant 16 year old with tons of ability and aggression. Just what is needed to make it to the top. What he does lack is experience. An experienced rider last night would have sat behind Battye pushing enough for Battye to be more interested in Cooper than he would Hagon. The match would have then been won. But Cooper is an all out racer and doesn’t want to be beaten. He also probably didn’t have a clue what the score was and what he needed to do. That’s the job of Havvy. Do you think Havvy would have told him before the heat?

The attempted pass on Battye wasn’t dangerous. He just clipped him. The right call to exclude. 
 

By the way the kicking out on Jye never happened. I have seen the video. 

[Fromafar]

The Kennett excuse from Havvy is laughable.must have got some Oxygen from Medics to get him on the bike for Ht15.🤔😂😂😂

 

[Neila]

2 minutes ago, Fromafar said:

The Kennett excuse from Havvy is laughable.must have got some Oxygen from Medics to get him on the bike for Ht15.🤔😂😂😂

 

Or something else 😜.  Maybe red bull as it gives you wings 

[geoff100]

1 hour ago, Tim Templeton said:

If Kennett said he was knackered and blown out when Havvy wanted to put him in heat 14, surely that explains Kennett's absence? 

That comment is not to be sniffed at,but better than the sound of silence(r).

[screm]

Giving his comments, I`m delighted to see that Gary Havelock has not lost any of his wit or humour.

[Gavan]

53 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Cooper certainly doesn’t need to calm it down at all. He is a very exciting exuberant 16 year old with tons of ability and aggression. Just what is needed to make it to the top. What he does lack is experience. An experienced rider last night would have sat behind Battye pushing enough for Battye to be more interested in Cooper than he would Hagon. The match would have then been won. But Cooper is an all out racer and doesn’t want to be beaten. He also probably didn’t have a clue what the score was and what he needed to do. That’s the job of Havvy. Do you think Havvy would have told him before the heat?

The attempted pass on Battye wasn’t dangerous. He just clipped him. The right call to exclude. 
 

By the way the kicking out on Jye never happened. I have seen the video. 

Cooper is obviously a top talent but he is getting a reputation…. Unfairly in some cases 

He was rightly excluded last night 

I think he was wrongly excluded in the Etheridge incident 

But to say he didn’t kick out is just deluded it’s pretty obvious 

[TheWellBehavedWorrall]

Hate that this is in regard to easily one of the most exciting young riders in the world, but all noise aside, this is the risk Cooper Rushen faces; he may hurt someone very badly one day.

I absolutely love watching him. He has breathed life into British speedway this season, but far too often, he’s a health and safety hazard.

I’ve only saw the crash; I haven’t saw Poole/Berwick fans’ comments in here or online, so I hope Havelock, Forde and/or Middleditch are defending him in public, but advising him behind the scenes because nobody wants to see riders hurt.

He’s such a bubbly character too. Ironic that this pleasant boy is putting people in the dirt.

Edited yesterday at 10:46 AM by TheWellBehavedWorrall

[Fromafar]

4 hours ago, DSC67 said:

I would agree with Havelocks’ comment regarding the floodlights, I was in the stand and it definitely seemed a bit gloomy, I was surprised the didn’t put them on earlier than they did 

I’m not sure if the Floodlights on the STAND SIDE were actually working .Perhaps someone one backstraight can answer that one. Think Havvy was at the delaying tactics the way Dickson was saying on the microphone after Ht 15.?

[marko]

You have to strike a balance between getting carried away and actually looking to hurt another rider, the younger the rider the more chance they will try moves older riders will not risk.

I think to an extent, because we have such a lack of young riders now, fans have forgotten how back in the day there were tons or riders who were a bit harem scarem, but thinking about it, it wasnt just the young riders.

Think back when we had the likes of Kelvin Mullarkey, Jamie Habbin, Scott Smith, Rob Tilbury, Jan Pedersen, Rob Grant, Richard Green etc etc a lot of hard riders often on the verge of being over the top.

Also, I would have a Cooper Rushden in my team any day over a Troy Batchelor.

[foreverblue]

41 minutes ago, TheWellBehavedWorrall said:

Hate that this is in regard to easily one of the most exciting young riders in the world, but all noise aside, this is the risk Cooper Rushen faces; he may hurt someone very badly one day.

I absolutely love watching him. He has breathed life into British speedway this season, but far too often, he’s a health and safety hazard.

I’ve only saw the crash; I haven’t saw Poole/Berwick fans’ comments in here or online, so I hope Havelock, Forde and/or Middleditch are defending him in public, but advising him behind the scenes because nobody wants to see riders hurt.

He’s such a bubbly character too. Ironic that this pleasant boy is putting people in the dirt.

Wow, a couple of crashes, not all of them worthy of exclusion and now he is the new Dirty Nicki. 

[allthegearbutnaeidea]

1 hour ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Cooper certainly doesn’t need to calm it down at all. He is a very exciting exuberant 16 year old with tons of ability and aggression. Just what is needed to make it to the top. What he does lack is experience. An experienced rider last night would have sat behind Battye pushing enough for Battye to be more interested in Cooper than he would Hagon. The match would have then been won. But Cooper is an all out racer and doesn’t want to be beaten. He also probably didn’t have a clue what the score was and what he needed to do. That’s the job of Havvy. Do you think Havvy would have told him before the heat?

The attempted pass on Battye wasn’t dangerous. He just clipped him. The right call to exclude. 
 

By the way the kicking out on Jye never happened. I have seen the video. 

You absolute liar, we have all seen the video of him kicking out at Jye from the tapes.