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If Ipswich can’t win it then I don’t mind who out of Belle Vue or Leicester do Sorry no time for Sheffield as the way some of their fans behave … they did it at the play off final second leg and again when they won at Foxhall last month … just not a nice fan base … plus they have Jack Holder lol

Oxford making a track change for tonight's meeting...Oxford make track change ahead of KOC match 🤣

Scotty has made some set up changes to account for the new track changes...

I will be there and for many it's about supporting your local team - whether they are doing well or badly.

This thread is hilarious with riders antics. Better than my dirty riders thread. Thanks.

I don't suppose the Challenge will be on TV. It never seems to be. I would much rather watch this cut throat meeting than most of the GP's.

At this point we should just wave the white flag and let a fully fit Oxford take our place in the play offs.

1st signing should be someone who knows how to prepare the track 😜

The last league meeting of the season, if comets win then we are in the play offs (i think) but despite Plymouth looking like a weak side, some of their away performances have been good, could be a close encounter, so all you comets fans get down to the GT tyres northside arena to cheer the comets to the play offs UTC

King is not even beating riders on his home track that he should. He can't possibly replace either Doyle or Sayfutdinov - nobody has suggested that - but he hasn't even maintained his contribution when it was needed most.

I'm of the opinion that as long as you don't touch the tapes and you get a flyer then what's the problem. All they are doing is penalising good gaters.

Anyhow as I’ve said before, I think it’s time to bin it off as it’s not a level playing field. There will be two or three that are clearly far superior to the rest on the list, so some clubs through no fault of their own will be disadvantaged from the get go. At least by letting clubs build their 1-7 of their choosing, if they end up with one of the weaker teams then that’s their own fault. When you look at the whole list from this year, and with all due respect to them, there’s some on there that would be out of their depth in a Championship reserve berth let alone Premiership.

When the RS scheme was first introduced you just had to have less then 3 years pro league experience or be under 25,, or something like that,, Bacon was about 28 if my memory serves me right,, and there was a bit of a fuss over Josh Bates having 3 years or less experience at that level.

As long as a rider fits the criteria, there is no maximum amount of seasons. I think they have to be U23 or U24 at the start of the season, so Flint could have 2 or more seasons if his average stayed below 4.00.

Or we might beat the Lions again....

Keep off will be back at worky in 25

That's the KL motto 😉

Depends how windy it is😀

I am hoping Dickson can persuade them to come to Berwick 💰🤸‍♀️🤔

I'd pay for that tbh.

You do realise King can only have 6 rides tomorrow unless we’re 6 down, he’d need about 10 rides to score that 😂

Would that be fair? Ed the Monarch always has a minder with him. Right enough Roary could give him a Glasgow kiss and put the Ed on Monarch.

Good thing we've been training ours with all the kids races

The scene is set... King bangs in 16 points... Brennan 12, Ellis 9, Rew 8, Thompson 7 Jenkins 4 and we're over the line!! And then as King holds the trophy aloft for the 2nd year running.... I wake up!! 😂

That’s not me, I’m afraid.

Thompson for Thomson? Usually people take the p. We've decided to add one instead.

Ah okay thanks, wasn't sure if the win against Oxford was to do with the points difference. Which from what you are saying it isn't. He didn't sound too confident about it in the interview 😉 Although at Edinburgh I guess a lot is going to depend on what guests they have.

Doubt they will, sadly.

Every single post of yours is very confrontational...

As mentioned on another thread, Matic Ivacic average goes down to 4 - putting him at reserve and probably means Jack at no.2 for Sunday.

That’s why they altered the criteria to avoid the likes of the Bates situation. Going by this years rules, you had to be 23 or under by January 1st to fit the qualifying criteria.

I'm positive when the RS system started that riders who dropped below 4.00 could become "rising stars" again, such as Jenkins. I think he has to be U24 at the start of the season to qualify. Maybe the rules have changed, but originally that was the case.

And we have had a test match this year....September 1, 2024 to be precise at Iwade..... Here is the result..... England 50 Ben Morley 3 3 3 3 3 3 18[M] Rhys Naylor 1' 1 2 2' 2' 2' 10 + 4 Jacob Clouting 1 2 3 3 1 2 12 Jack Kingston 2 2' 1 1 FX FX 6+1 Sam Woods (track res.) 0 0 0 2 2 4 Australia 38 Dayle Wood 2 0 2 2 1 1 8 Patrick Hamilton 3 2 3 2' EF 0 10+1 Matt Marson 0 3 0 1 3 3 3 13 Senna Summers 0 1 0 3 inj. 5 Nathan Hargrave (track res.) 1 1 0 F F F 2 Heat details; 1 Morley, D. Wood, Clouting. Marson 60.8 [4-2] 2 Hamilton, Kingston, Naylor, Summers 61.8 [7-5] 3 Marson, Clouting, Hargrave, S. Woods 62.3 [9-9] 4 Morley, Hamilton, Naylor, D. Wood 60.6 [13-11] 5 Clouting, Kingston, Summers, Marson (fell rem.) 61.0 [18-12] 6 Hamilton, Naylor, Hargrave, S. Woods 62.3 [20-16] 7 (rerun) Morley, D. Wood, Kingston, Summers 60.9 [24-18] 8 Clouting, Naylor, Marson, Hargrave 60.4 [29-19] 9 Summers, Hamilton, Kingston, S. Woods 69.2 [30-24] 10 Morley, D. Wood, Clouting, Hargrave (fell rem, fell) 64.0 [34-26] 11 (rerun) Marson, S. Woods, Summers, Kingston (fell exc.) 63.4 [36-30] 12 Morley, Naylor, D. Wood, Hamilton (EF) 60.9 [41-31] 13 (awarded) Marson, Clouting, Hargrave (fell), Kingston (fell exc.), Summers (inj.) no time [43-34] 14 Morley, Naylor, D. Wood, Hamilton 62.3 [48-35] 15 (awarded) Marson, S. Woods, Harhgrave (fell) [three riders only] no time [50-38]

Kingy did appear to shut off a fraction early allowing Edwards to pip him on the line... which is unforgivable really.

He's the captain. The reserves race wasn't going to restart with Dan still out on the track. He had time to check on an important member of his team. Stop making excuses for him. He has come up short at everything. Captain, team rider and points scorer. He was lucky to score 4 yesterday after holder made a mistake in his first ride.

It’s never been communicated from the club & if they knew Emil was out for the season it should have been made official. The last few week it feels like all the good work over the last couple of seasons has been undone. A real shame.

There will be no picks from outside the top 4 in the challenge- Doyle + current GP riders.( 4 or 5 max)

I think maybe the BSPL need to dismiss him asap, before the NFL's lawyers get to work. It may just save their bacon, but even if they do it, they're now vulnerable.

tbh like others on here, even though I have retired from watching speedway after 60+ years, the sport still entertains me .... every season is a comedy , building slowly from the early meetings with 7 riders in a team, then seeing R/R and gusts come into play, then add in riders"withholding their services" or injured only for UK meetings. Rising to a crescendo at the "business end" of the season with a sudden bums rush to complete fixtures by the "cut off" date, then extensions to the "cut off date". Gusts have turned into gales of Gusts sometimes Chris Harris riding in every match. for every team challenging for the P.Offs. This happens every season. However this season is like no other. We have the added excitement of the use of Speedway's equivalent of AI , also known as Phil Morris, who as a successful TV game show player has artificially guessed results of all fixtures for the P. offs. Stunning. With so many gusts in use it matters not a jot who wins the p.offs, but its jolly good fun coming on this forum and seeing the same old same old every season, and he promises of better next season (albeit with fewer tracks operating ) What a wonderful sport 🙂 🙂

We actually covered Doyle’s absence really well to be fair. He’s been out since mid May but we still managed to win most meetings both home and away even with inferior guests and rider replacement. But once Emil crashed at Sheffield (and let’s not forget we were 2 points up going in to heat 15 and fighting for the win for the second time there this season) the whole team collapsed. The younger members of the team who had all stepped up a gear this year, suddenly lost a bit of form when the pressure to be the main players in the game rather than the supporting acts, naturally took its toll. Then Ellis joined Doyle and Emil on the sidelines when he crashed out of his opening heat in our next fixture at home to Leicester, and that was the season dead and buried. No chance of signing replacements even if they now become available, and very limited guest choice. A season that promised everything has turned in to a season to forget. Maybe next year!

Understatement of the year! Let’s have it right, Ipswich were a better side than Sheffield this year, the results between the clubs when both were at full strength proves that. The table before Emil joined Doyle on the sidelines also proves that. You’ll get some fans come on with “it’s not our fault we can only beat what’s put in front of us” or, “well that’s speedway injuries can happen”, you’ll always get supporters who are desperate for silverware and couldn’t care less how they get it. But the fact is, the injuries to Ipswich haven’t just spoiled it for Ipswich, they’ve spoiled it for everyone else because the clubs that lift the pots will know it’s a hollow victory. Surely as a fan you want to take on your opponents at their strongest so you know any victory would be fully deserved? No excuses can be made by the losing team, won fair and square. Yes injuries do happen of course they do, but losing not one but two 9.5 pointers is bonkers.

There is a serious danger of a self perpetuating doom-loop scenario killing even more Clubs here. The avowed intent of the likes of Adrian Smith initially and then Phil Morris and very much supported by the likes of Rob Godfrey, was to have clear blue water between a televised Premier product and the Championship product. The logic being, its easier to sell both products when they are not blurred by the fact that 80% plus of the PL riders double down. The race by several CL Clubs to compete and pay money they cannot / could not afford is clear and it looked like we were beginning to see some clear blue water with a lowering of the CL limit, bringing in some sanity and a refusal to continue to pay PL heat leaders big guarantees to ride in the CL. It seems from this thread that the lunatics have regained control of the asylum; and if the CL limit rises again and the return/continuance of almost all CL teams looking like PL lite and running 40 point averages with one or two CL Clubs having 3 PL level heat leaders and others left with one or none, then the self flagellating doom loop starts all over again. This scenario killed a buoyant NDL circa 2017 - 2018. The root cause is the prehistoric belief that the UK can compete with Poland and the big fish mentality of some in the CL who can't or won't play in the big league because of the prhistoric belief UK PL has to race on a Monday and a Thursday, despite the fact that it now has no relevance as the POles do what they like and stick 2 fingers up to everyone. The are 2 simple options (1) Run the PL matches on a Monday / Tuesday / Wednesday; Thursday; Friday or Saturday and allow those CL teams who have the infrastructure to move up, to move up (2) Make the PL genuinely Elite by allowing far less doubling down of anyone with a PL average over 6 and turn the CL in to a League that is CL Lite and NDL rich bringing through the next generation. We are seeing elitism destroy football, it has half destroyed Rugby Union and is slowly eroding County Cricket. Clubs like Poole / Glasgow / Oxford should not have to be in the CL if they wish to be in the PL but only the race day obsession is preventing them. The Poles now race on a Tuesday / Thursday / Friday / Saturday / Sunday if it suits them, the Danes should no longer dictate what occurs on a Wednesday and very sadly Swedish Speedway is in an even more precarious position that the UK financially.

To not get beaten by reserves when he's suppose to lead by example as a HL and club captain.

King hasn't stepped up once when needed. That's what most expect. Sick and tired of saying it, but once again he goes missing. Now we have no chance on Thursday and that will affect the gate, so it's hitting the purse strings.

Ben Barker

Or Glasgow

Good luck to Leicester in the final. Be great to see them defeat Sheffield.

Well Cookie is there 😂 Lawson also rode in Cookie's testimonal and they are now team mates again!