dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted Saturday at 06:25 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 06:25 PM 31 minutes ago, Tinker said: Probably too late to arrange now but why not have the Knockout Cup involving both leagues. At least it would give some variety and renewed interest with different teams competing against each other. If a Championship team is drawn against a Premier League team then there is only one leg with the Championship team being at home. Otherwise, it's two legs home and away. Semi finals and Final to be over two legs no matter which teams get through to the latter stages. Try and get a sponsor on board with decent prize money and make it a trophy/tournament worth winning. Example of what some matches could be drawn out of the hat as:- Plymouth v Kings Lynn, Poole v Belle Vue, Edinburgh v Sheffield etc. Would surely create a lot of interest and give the fans something different. Worth a try? So if the Championship get the one home leg who pays the Premiership team?? The Championship won't agree to anything with a financial risk to their set up Then you have the doubling up and who rides for who when the inevitable clash happens 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB1 Posted Saturday at 06:50 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 06:50 PM 56 minutes ago, Tinker said: Probably too late to arrange now but why not have the Knockout Cup involving both leagues. At least it would give some variety and renewed interest with different teams competing against each other. If a Championship team is drawn against a Premier League team then there is only one leg with the Championship team being at home. Otherwise, it's two legs home and away. Semi finals and Final to be over two legs no matter which teams get through to the latter stages. Try and get a sponsor on board with decent prize money and make it a trophy/tournament worth winning. Example of what some matches could be drawn out of the hat as:- Plymouth v Kings Lynn, Poole v Belle Vue, Edinburgh v Sheffield etc. Would surely create a lot of interest and give the fans something different. Worth a try? Plymouth v King's Lynn does Nicolai ride 2 for Plymouth and 2 for Lynn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted Saturday at 08:08 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 08:08 PM 1 hour ago, TB1 said: Plymouth v King's Lynn does Nicolai ride 2 for Plymouth and 2 for Lynn? ... or just stay in his Polish hotel room and watch it on BSN Sorry, couldn't resist, you set em up and I'll knock em in 😁 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB1 Posted Saturday at 10:03 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 10:03 PM 1 hour ago, IainB said: ... or just stay in his Polish hotel room and watch it on BSN Sorry, couldn't resist, you set em up and I'll knock em in 😁 Can't help myself Ian, the powers that be have kicked the can so much that they must have ran out of road! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted Saturday at 10:49 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 10:49 PM 2 hours ago, IainB said: ... or just stay in his Polish hotel room and watch it on BSN Sorry, couldn't resist, you set em up and I'll knock em in 😁 It's funny, plus it's pretty true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted Saturday at 11:26 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 11:26 PM 5 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: So if the Championship get the one home leg who pays the Premiership team?? The Championship won't agree to anything with a financial risk to their set up Then you have the doubling up and who rides for who when the inevitable clash happens I think my half n half kevlars and helmets might work... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted Saturday at 11:55 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 11:55 PM Some happy riders though.They win again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89buttons Posted Sunday at 01:44 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 01:44 PM 14 hours ago, mikebv said: I think my half n half kevlars and helmets might work... Riders coming past while stood on the back straight “hoorah we’re on a 5-1, then as you see them cross the line, hang on they’re on a 5-1??” 🙈😂😂👌👌 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted Sunday at 01:51 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 01:51 PM 3 minutes ago, 89buttons said: Riders coming past while stood on the back straight “hoorah we’re on a 5-1, then as you see them cross the line, hang on they’re on a 5-1??” 🙈😂😂👌👌 Just think of the excitement it would bring... Plus... Team riding by yourself.... And maybe even Guesting for yourself... Six points for a win would certainly boost the riders pay packet too.. Ticks a lot of boxes, for me... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old bob at herne bay Posted Sunday at 09:26 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 09:26 PM How many unique riders will there be in the 2026 teams ? ie NOT doubling up riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old bob at herne bay Posted Sunday at 09:27 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 09:27 PM Should have said " one club" riders not unique 🙂 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted Sunday at 10:06 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 10:06 PM 39 minutes ago, old bob at herne bay said: How many unique riders will there be in the 2026 teams ? ie NOT doubling up riders. 38 minutes ago, old bob at herne bay said: Should have said " one club" riders not unique 🙂 🙂 Time will tell but I will take a stab at single figures is likely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShanoXtra Posted Sunday at 11:11 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 11:11 PM On 12/13/2025 at 5:51 PM, Tinker said: Probably too late to arrange now but why not have the Knockout Cup involving both leagues. At least it would give some variety and renewed interest with different teams competing against each other. If a Championship team is drawn against a Premier League team then there is only one leg with the Championship team being at home. Otherwise, it's two legs home and away. Semi finals and Final to be over two legs no matter which teams get through to the latter stages. Try and get a sponsor on board with decent prize money and make it a trophy/tournament worth winning. Example of what some matches could be drawn out of the hat as:- Plymouth v Kings Lynn, Poole v Belle Vue, Edinburgh v Sheffield etc. Would surely create a lot of interest and give the fans something different. Worth a try? Imagine if they tried that last year! Imagine if Poole agreed to be the 8th team to race in the KOC and they got drawn against Sheffield, then imagine the mighty Poole getting cold feet and pulling out so Sheffield got a buy into the next round, just imagine if that happened… 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinker Posted Sunday at 11:28 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 11:28 PM 5 minutes ago, ShanoXtra said: Imagine if they tried that last year! Imagine if Poole agreed to be the 8th team to race in the KOC and they got drawn against Sheffield, then imagine the mighty Poole getting cold feet and pulling out so Sheffield got a buy into the next round, just imagine if that happened… Fair enough but I'm just trying to think outside the box. Boy, does Speedway need it. My suggestion is not perfect by any means but I'm sure there's ways they could work around it. All I'm saying is that the sport needs a new direction, a new impetus and more variety. At the moment it's same old same old and needs something different to get new fans in. Even bringing back the Gold Helmet would be a good start. A decent sponsor, some decent publicity and put it out there that there's bad blood between the two contestants (akin to boxing etc). Remember the Golden Helmet match races between Carter and Penhall, now that really did catch the public's imagination! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted Sunday at 11:35 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 11:35 PM 6 minutes ago, Tinker said: Even bringing back the Gold Helmet would be a good start. A decent sponsor, some decent publicity and put it out there that there's bad blood between the two contestants (akin to boxing etc). Remember the Golden Helmet match races between Carter and Penhall, now that really did catch the public's imagination! Hear hear. Always a highlight that brought in the crowds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted yesterday at 08:02 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 08:02 AM 8 hours ago, Tinker said: Fair enough but I'm just trying to think outside the box. Boy, does Speedway need it. My suggestion is not perfect by any means but I'm sure there's ways they could work around it. All I'm saying is that the sport needs a new direction, a new impetus and more variety. At the moment it's same old same old and needs something different to get new fans in. Even bringing back the Gold Helmet would be a good start. A decent sponsor, some decent publicity and put it out there that there's bad blood between the two contestants (akin to boxing etc). Remember the Golden Helmet match races between Carter and Penhall, now that really did catch the public's imagination! As with so many suggestions that at face value seem interesting and innovative once you scratch through the surface there are often huge holes which are as bad/worse as the situation intended to resolve Like the one big league brigade thinking it will be at current Championship standard etc Change is inevitable, imperative and over due but the solution will never be a concensus of agreement I fear that those with the decision in their hands have it in them to reach agreement and implement it smoothly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy cookie returns? Posted 17 hours ago Report Share Posted 17 hours ago On 12/14/2025 at 1:51 PM, mikebv said: And maybe even Guesting for yourself I’m pretty sure that has already happened. I’m sure someone on here can remember the rider involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted 16 hours ago Report Share Posted 16 hours ago 33 minutes ago, cowboy cookie returns? said: I’m pretty sure that has already happened. I’m sure someone on here can remember the rider involved. John Davis 1975. He was allocated to Reading from Oxford. Oxford were allowed a guest until a replacement arrived. Step forward John Davis. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted 14 hours ago Report Share Posted 14 hours ago 2 hours ago, arnieg said: John Davis 1975. He was allocated to Reading from Oxford. Oxford were allowed a guest until a replacement arrived. Step forward John Davis. Dear old JD had the best equipment and was well funded but he would have been better off at longtrack, I remember when he signed for Lynn poss 88 under Simmo and Bill Barker he was a good trapper but coming out of the second bend he would be leaving a gap on the inside the titantic could have got through. And JD'S riding the boards wasn't in the Henka or Loram style it was more just looking uncomfortable on the bike, to be fair he had an above average career but he never looked suited to speedway to me he would have been better on an oval twice the size of Lynn where he could drift off 20 metres from the inside line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerIain Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago 21 hours ago, old bob at herne bay said: How many unique riders will there be in the 2026 teams ? ie NOT doubling up riders. Hard to be exact because of so many lower order Premiership team changes, but I recon that there are about 17 currently announced in the Championship next year that were not doubling up in the Premiership last year. No 2026 Premiership signings announced yet, but last year there were about 23 riders that rode Premiership without riding Championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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