BRITISH U21 FINAL, REDCAR Sunday, June 7, 2026 17:00 Live on BSN

[Steve Shovlar]

I watched it delayed by about 45 minutes and didn’t have any issues. Fast forwarded between heats and nearly caught up to ‘live’ by the end. Perhaps that’s the best way to watch it if you don’t like long drawn out meetings.

[NC86]

13 hours ago, foreverblue said:

I am assuming Ace said he would get him back again!! Cairns is not dirty at all. It is all in Pjiper's mind.

You obviously were not there to see Cairns torpedo Piper into the fence, I watched Cairns throughout the meeting walking round the pits like some sort of prima donna , showing no humility at all like the GP riders I had witnessed only 24 hrs earlier at Belle Vue.

[Neila]

31 minutes ago, NC86 said:

You obviously were not there to see Cairns torpedo Piper into the fence, I watched Cairns throughout the meeting walking round the pits like some sort of prima donna , showing no humility at all like the GP riders I had witnessed only 24 hrs earlier at Belle Vue.

Imo cairns seems to think he is a lot better than he is, if he gates will win, but if he misses the gate he struggles to pass, or if he does it's reckless, daddy's money won't help him passing other riders though 😜

[InTheDeepStuff]

Think they need to look at the line up for this type of meeting going forward, you had too many young lads there who struggled to turn the bike in the dirt and control the bike to stay on for 4 laps, the gaps between 1st and 4th in some races was around half a lap which just isn’t competitive.  
Even it’s a case of dropping the u21 title and making it u24 where the more experienced u21 riders (those with Championship places maybe as a minimum) will mix it with  those who recently moved on from that age group but are in a bit of no man’s land.

[foreverblue]

2 hours ago, NC86 said:

You obviously were not there to see Cairns torpedo Piper into the fence, I watched Cairns throughout the meeting walking round the pits like some sort of prima donna , showing no humility at all like the GP riders I had witnessed only 24 hrs earlier at Belle Vue.

No I was not there but what I saw of the crash on tv, he did not torpedo Pjiper and was unfortunate to get excluded.

[WookieboyDon]

12 minutes ago, foreverblue said:

No I was not there but what I saw of the crash on tv, he did not torpedo Pjiper and was unfortunate to get excluded.

I agree that Cairns did not 'torpedo' Ace, but he did knock him down and deserved the exclusion. 

I thought Ace's reaction was a bit over the top. I think it was more down to the fact that he didn't win the title on his home track. Got out-gated and frustration boiled over once he bit the dirt.

Will is certainly a marmite character, of that there's no doubt.

[Odds On]

BSN, i had pictures that were pixalating when the racing was in full flow, i know they mentioned it during the meeting so were aware of the issue.

Racing and presentation of the meeting, far too long to run a meeting, track looked awful and a number of riders looked out of shape on it!.

I thought Rushen, Cairns, Scott, Loftus, Perry, Foord, Pijper all looked good.....regarding Pijper he will soon learn when having an engine failure you just don't "dump" the bike on the track for your mechanic to pick up, right there right then showed a poor attitude, only something small but stood out a mile.

[IainB]

2 hours ago, InTheDeepStuff said:

Think they need to look at the line up for this type of meeting going forward, you had too many young lads there who struggled to turn the bike in the dirt and control the bike to stay on for 4 laps, the gaps between 1st and 4th in some races was around half a lap which just isn’t competitive.  
Even it’s a case of dropping the u21 title and making it u24 where the more experienced u21 riders (those with Championship places maybe as a minimum) will mix it with  those who recently moved on from that age group but are in a bit of no man’s land.

Instead of renaming competitions, they could think about mandating all clubs run a junior team and give these kids some bike and track time!

1 hour ago, WookieboyDon said:

Will is certainly a marmite character, of that there's no doubt.

I'm not keen on him myself... but that's great 👍The sport needs these marmite characters... or just characters would be a start.

[mikebv]

1 hour ago, WookieboyDon said:

I agree that Cairns did not 'torpedo' Ace, but he did knock him down and deserved the exclusion. 

I thought Ace's reaction was a bit over the top. I think it was more down to the fact that he didn't win the title on his home track. Got out-gated and frustration boiled over once he bit the dirt.

Will is certainly a marmite character, of that there's no doubt.

Only saw it on YT but there did seem to be a Zmarzlik sized opportunity to dive bomb into turn three...

Cairns took that chance and, given the one camera angle from his side of the track, looked like he may have got passed without touching Piper...

Either way, good to see someone prepared to take racing risks...

[Fromafar]

4 hours ago, NC86 said:

You obviously were not there to see Cairns torpedo Piper into the fence, I watched Cairns throughout the meeting walking round the pits like some sort of prima donna , showing no humility at all like the GP riders I had witnessed only 24 hrs earlier at Belle Vue.

Specsavers for you if you saw Ace hit the fence.Slid across the track without bike just reached the fence.Dont I would call that “torpedoed” into fence.

Edited 4 hours ago by Fromafar

[Fortythirtyeight]

2 hours ago, Fromafar said:

Specsavers for you if you saw Ace hit the fence.Slid across the track without bike just reached the fence.Dont I would call that “torpedoed” into fence.

All these expert analysists who weren’t even at the meeting. The view from up above the entrance to the third bend showed that Cairns went for a gap that wasn’t going to be there for long and clearly took out Pijpers front wheel, not on purpose, just youthful  enthusiasm, but it did happen.

Edited 2 hours ago by Fortythirtyeight

[mikebv]

39 minutes ago, Fortythirtyeight said:

All these expert analysists who weren’t even at the meeting. The view from up above the entrance to the third bend showed that Cairns went for a gap that wasn’t going to be there for long and clearly took out Pijpers front wheel, not on purpose, just youthful  enthusiasm, but it did happen.

Only saw it from the camera coverage, but the fact Cairns' back wheel caused the issue to Piper's front suggests there was a gap there long enough to give it a go...

As you say, "youthful exuberance", but good to see all the same...

It wasn't a reckless act by any means which would rightly have been criticised accordingly... 

To reach the highest levels you need to take calculated risks, which, sometimes, you fail with...

I do think an U24 Championship would be something worth considering until the U21 level can stand alone with enough riders of sufficient quality...

It would also give any "wunderkinds" (that we seem to have very regularly considering we are a nation who end up with very few top level riders), a more realistic appraisal of where they are in the "real world", and may also then have people being less over the top, and pressured, in their expectations of them...

[Fromafar]

42 minutes ago, Fortythirtyeight said:

All these expert analysists who weren’t even at the meeting. The view from up above the entrance to the third bend showed that Cairns went for a gap that wasn’t going to be there for long and clearly took out Pijpers front wheel, not on purpose, just youthful  enthusiasm, but it did happen.

TV cameras show a different angle, I thought it was a 50/50 call, don’t dispute it.Just youthful enthusiasm like you say.Ace seems to think he is already a superstar, Theo needs to tell to behave and stop throwing the bike down in a tantrum and send him back to pick it up.All in days work for the mechanic though.🤔👎

[Steve Shovlar]

Will was sitting in last place and knew that Cooper was away and gone with no chance of catching him. A place on the rostrum was better than 4th and so he had to go for the gap that Pijper had left. If he got through he got third. If he failed it would have been the same as where he was before he went for it. Logic says go for it. He nearly pulled it off but not quite. He did catch Pijper wheel so was rightly excluded but it almost came off.

The reaction from Pijper though was ridiculous, and frankly, totally expected knowing his personality. He nearly always likes to throw a hissy fit in a meeting. First tantrum when it looked like his mechanic didn’t put fuel in his bike, then a second when he was taken out. He will soon discover someone bigger and tougher will knock him spark out if he comes charging up to the wrong person who won’t take that behaviour. His pit crew were just as bad. 

[Binman]

10 hours ago, secsy1 said:

Irrespective of many people not being able to watch due to technical difficulties, they should think themselves lucky as they did not have to endure the abysmal camera coverage and woeful commentary.

Only when replays of the races were shown from different angles could you appreciate any race as then you could see what was happening.

Do not even go their with the commentary.

As many have already posted, BSN leaves a lot to be desired even if it is the last stand TV coverage. 

 

10 hours ago, secsy1 said:

Irrespective of many people not being able to watch due to technical difficulties, they should think themselves lucky as they did not have to endure the abysmal camera coverage and woeful commentary.

Only when replays of the races were shown from different angles could you appreciate any race as then you could see what was happening.

Do not even go their with the commentary.

As many have already posted, BSN leaves a lot to be desired even if it is the last stand TV coverage. 

Try Scunthorpe that will shock you no apology no money back miss 4 plus races

[R87]

12 hours ago, secsy1 said:

Irrespective of many people not being able to watch due to technical difficulties, they should think themselves lucky as they did not have to endure the abysmal camera coverage and woeful commentary.

Only when replays of the races were shown from different angles could you appreciate any race as then you could see what was happening.

Do not even go their with the commentary.

As many have already posted, BSN leaves a lot to be desired even if it is the last stand TV coverage. 

Sooner they're binned off the better.  If your a real fan, you go to the meeting,  not watch a micky mouse production on your laptop

[NC86]

7 hours ago, foreverblue said:

No I was not there but what I saw of the crash on tv, he did not torpedo Pjiper and was unfortunate to get excluded.