Gavan Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago Just now, IainB said: Just hype for the cup final... nobody really gives a toss about the league until the pay offs Maybe but I think it’s sour grapes from our manager We was 6 points up after 11 heats and if kemp hadn’t have fallen in heat 11 Leicester could not have used a tac sub in heat 12 Is Hurry seriously blaming Dickson when after 11 heats we was 6 clear!??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB1 Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago 55 minutes ago, IainB said: Just hype for the cup final... nobody really gives a toss about the league until the pay offs 55 minutes ago, IainB said: Just hype for the cup final... nobody really gives a toss about the league until the pay offs This league is pants, and the sooner it's back to basics and one league the better. All I will say is congratulations must go to Lynn on a 60 year wait for a first ever win at Sheffield. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShanoXtra Posted 4 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 6 hours ago, TB1 said: This league is pants, and the sooner it's back to basics and one league the better. All I will say is congratulations must go to Lynn on a 60 year wait for a first ever win at Sheffield. One league won’t make it better. What you really need to bring in new fans is two leagues which promotion and relegation. The sport needs jeopardy and punishment for finishing last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teromaafan Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 8 hours ago, Gavan said: Don’t agree with Hurry here The track was horrific early on and then was like riding on concrete If they had prepared a half decent track at the outset there would have been no issues. The ref surely has the final say on track conditions/suitablity. He’s just a bad loser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago (edited) 9 hours ago, Gavan said: If only I was a betting man! What let us down tonight was gating in the later stages … Leicester out gated us in almost the last 6 heats and fair play to them R/R didn’t cost us but 2 from MPT did Brennan looks so poor at the moment .. lifts out of every start and didn’t look like getting close Only my second visit this season but I’m in no rush to hurry back ….. the track was awful if you made the gate that was it ….. Musielek busted a gut in the later heats but no dirt to go around and nothing on the inside…. our track has never been good … but this was awful I’m sure the man on the mic is a nice guy but monotone presentation is not the way forward … he tried a witches war cry that was so flat ….. Kevin Long is an impossible act to follow but this guy is miles off it Im not bothered we lost I like Leicester and the manager is by some way the best in the league but I’m not paying £25 plus £30 in fuel to be bored each week On another note hope Nick Morris is ok he was being violently sick throughout the meeting before being withdrawn … no fast one being pulled there I can assure you Technical tracks eh Edited 3 hours ago by bellevueace 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 8 hours ago, TB1 said: This league is pants, and the sooner it's back to basics and one league the better. All I will say is congratulations must go to Lynn on a 60 year wait for a first ever win at Sheffield. Totally agree this so called league is terrible, throw in the big gaps between home meetings, the amount of guests etc and its no wonder even die hard fans are walking away. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 9 hours ago, Aries said: https://ipswichwitches.co/witches-boss-hurry-hits-out-as-lions-win-at-foxhall/ Will play devil's advocate here If he didn't think it was dangerous why agree to tyre pack? If he thought it would make it worse why agree to tyre pack? Do many referees really have any clue about a track? Would he have called it off if Ipswich refused to tyre pack? Would Leicester have refused to ride? If that's how the Witches want the track then it should be that way - it's not up to the opposition! I say that they should've called their bluff.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveArena Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago I bet you Witches fans wish Chris Louis was still there. Much better team and track. This guy Coleman was like the lot who moved into Reading and called them the Bulldogs! All ended in tears and this could go the same way. When it comes to British Speedway this lot dont know their arse from their elbow. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 2 hours ago, ShanoXtra said: One league won’t make it better. What you really need to bring in new fans is two leagues which promotion and relegation. The sport needs jeopardy and punishment for finishing last. I do agree 100%, but.... Promotion and Relegation will be a pipe dream unfortunately due to so few riders willing to ride over here, and the many second tier crowds not bringing in the income to pay riders to ride exclusively for them, meaning DU'ing will remain forever... For me, some major prize for winning the top league is the thing that would generate interest... Sadly, pretty much since the Sky money disappeared, and a nationally recognised company, (Skybet), sponsored the league, winning any of the leagues has had little rewards... The last decade, in particular, unfortunately has rendered any league largely irrelevant given the lack of publicity, the crowd numbers reducing, and the farcical operating model which is now set in stone as fundamentally the only way they can keep running their tracks... The inescapable feeling is that the tracks are now just open so riders can earn a living, and promoters can rub shoulders with them, enjoying their hobby... Nothing more, nothing less.. Edited 2 hours ago by mikebv 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagy1 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago Surely there is a case for each rider to get a couple of laps to try the track before the meeting starts? This would prevent things like this happening. Riders out individually or teams get a 5-10 session beforehand. The reason matches generally get better are that riders figure the track out. Surely it would be better for the sport if they were prepared at heat one. I know people will say, riders should know etc etc but if track prep is unpredictable why risk it. Give the riders a chance to entertain the fans 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralMelchett Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago (edited) Worth noting the only faller was Kemp who was attempting an outside pass on Tobias at the time! Ipswich seemed to be heading for a slender home win but two things went against them in the latter stages - firstly Kemps fall mentioned above meant they could got for a tactical in heat 12 and that Douglas was involve din about 5 of the last 6 or 7 heats! The t/s was for the conveniently or unfortunately ill Morris who hadn't done much in hi opening 2 rides! Kemp is such an enigma - one heat he is retiring after giving up at the back and then he is winding it on to try and pass Tobias / or outgating everyone to win - so inconsistent in a meeting! Track was dry - heat 2 the riders were finding it very tricky but for the rest of the night from where I was sat on the 2nd bend in the grandstand nobody seemed to be in any real trouble. I would give credit to Dickson for timing his tactical perfect and erm utilising his reserves well in light of Morris 'withdrawing' For the Witches Scott was great, Tobi faded after a good start probably me saying he may well go through the card after his first two rides. Tom again not quite enough - he couldn't land a blow to coin a certain phrase in heat 13 The Track still has the same track staff / Bob Ellis so how its prepared doesn't and shouldn't be too different from last season I would have thought unless the riders have asked for it to be so! Had Lawson and King been there I would have expected a (narrow) home win, combined i would expect them to get more than the 13 that PT and R/R got! Edited 2 hours ago by GeneralMelchett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago Paul Hurry is becoming a joke. Threw away a BP in our Home meeting vs. Belle Vue by not picking Rider of the Night (Musielak) and has now followed that up by blaming Stewart Dickson for track work taking place during a Home defeat to Leicester. I don't think Paul has a clue tbh and a new Team Manager for 2027 should be on Mayfield's list of jobs to do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitelinehugger Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 40 minutes ago, TTT said: Paul Hurry is becoming a joke. Threw away a BP in our Home meeting vs. Belle Vue by not picking Rider of the Night (Musielak) and has now followed that up by blaming Stewart Dickson for track work taking place during a Home defeat to Leicester. I don't think Paul has a clue tbh and a new Team Manager for 2027 should be on Mayfield's list of jobs to do. They won’t be in a HURRY to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShanoXtra Posted 47 minutes ago Author Report Share Posted 47 minutes ago 1 hour ago, mikebv said: I do agree 100%, but.... Promotion and Relegation will be a pipe dream unfortunately due to so few riders willing to ride over here, and the many second tier crowds not bringing in the income to pay riders to ride exclusively for them, meaning DU'ing will remain forever... For me, some major prize for winning the top league is the thing that would generate interest... Sadly, pretty much since the Sky money disappeared, and a nationally recognised company, (Skybet), sponsored the league, winning any of the leagues has had little rewards... The last decade, in particular, unfortunately has rendered any league largely irrelevant given the lack of publicity, the crowd numbers reducing, and the farcical operating model which is now set in stone as fundamentally the only way they can keep running their tracks... The inescapable feeling is that the tracks are now just open so riders can earn a living, and promoters can rub shoulders with them, enjoying their hobby... Nothing more, nothing less.. I agree with you, I know also it’s a pipe dream and the only thing that would make it reality would be big sponsorship deals plus prize money for being in and win in the top league, respectively. Next year will be massive and Poland have a giant part to play. If they uphold their decision that only a rider can race in Poland plus one league (not country) then a lot of riders in the championship will have big decisions of what league to ride in as it may force their hand. If that happens then Poole and Glasgow will have a big decision regarding to stay in a watered down champ or move to the prem with potential TV money. Richard is clearly trying to move the sport this way and get the Prem as the so called “promise land”. If this happens and you can stabilise it, then maybe, just maybe, promotion and relegation can be the next move. Where teams fear for relegation and loss of income and champ teams dream of promotion and financial gain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitelinehugger Posted 30 minutes ago Report Share Posted 30 minutes ago 17 minutes ago, ShanoXtra said: I agree with you, I know also it’s a pipe dream and the only thing that would make it reality would be big sponsorship deals plus prize money for being in and win in the top league, respectively. Next year will be massive and Poland have a giant part to play. If they uphold their decision that only a rider can race in Poland plus one league (not country) then a lot of riders in the championship will have big decisions of what league to ride in as it may force their hand. If that happens then Poole and Glasgow will have a big decision regarding to stay in a watered down champ or move to the prem with potential TV money. Richard is clearly trying to move the sport this way and get the Prem as the so called “promise land”. If this happens and you can stabilise it, then maybe, just maybe, promotion and relegation can be the next move. Where teams fear for relegation and loss of income and champ teams dream of promotion and financial gain. What a mess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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