PhilTheAce Posted Thursday at 08:56 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 08:56 AM personally if i was advising young riders id tell them that bike time is very important at your time, dont do Poland and ride in both leagues in UK, get a Swedish spot and a Denmark spot and while your young ride as many different tracks you can . but the zloty will always win sadly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted Thursday at 09:10 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 09:10 AM 1 hour ago, Neila said: Wow I did not know the Plymouth side was that much of an attraction 😜 maybe they thought @lewywas gonna turn up and sign autographs 🤣 Standard at Poole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted Thursday at 09:11 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 09:11 AM 17 minutes ago, spin king junior said: Think as things stand you can rule out Cairns riding in the championship next season. With Poland next season he can only race in one other league, so it'd be a choice between Premiership or Championship if he continues to race in Britain. That would be a sad situation where two of our biggest hopes for the future would be missing from the UK leagues after just one season in the Championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted Thursday at 09:17 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 09:17 AM 50 minutes ago, Pirates Of Poole said: That would be just ridiculous In that case most likely a shoe in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted Thursday at 09:19 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 09:19 AM 36 minutes ago, therefused said: should be lower if anything. Ha ha stop stirring the pot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWellBehavedWorrall Posted Thursday at 09:33 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 09:33 AM Might as well hand Poole the league title now. No-one is doing them over two legs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted Thursday at 09:39 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 09:39 AM 12 hours ago, PhilTheAce said: Disgusting track conditions at poole I'm saying nowt 🤣🤣 but compulsive evidence 😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWellBehavedWorrall Posted Thursday at 09:45 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 09:45 AM 13 hours ago, PhilTheAce said: Disgusting track conditions at poole This can’t be real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted Thursday at 09:51 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 09:51 AM 11 minutes ago, Neila said: I'm saying nowt 🤣🤣 but compulsive evidence 😜 Could be anywhere, dig on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragdoll64 Posted Thursday at 09:54 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 09:54 AM 10 hours ago, WeymouthPirate said: No wonder every other club wants to be us 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted Thursday at 10:03 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 10:03 AM (edited) 2 hours ago, lewy said: Judging by the number of riders who's averages have mysteriously just dropped to 8 with British reduction it would seem so Certainly, and quite correctly, riders are covering all bases... Just like many have for a long time given they compete in a sport where you can get sacked for doing too well!!! I think the 2nd tier average will be slashed for several reasons.. One. To give clear demarcation between the top two tiers, meaning the league that gets sold to TV is truly a "flagship" one.. Two. The hoped for TV contract should encourage at least two teams to go into tier one, particularly as some tier two teams will be concerned what impact the much lower limit will have on their decent attendance numbers, (given tier two fans are used to watching tier one HL's, so might not see a lesser standard as worth regular attending)... Three. A lower points limit will mean more two and three pont riders needed so development opportunities for more UK riders in a league that doesn't include World Class talent, but is a step up from NDL. You can foresee one decent level No1, who won't ride in Poland, but Double Up, and maybe ride somewhere else in Europe, with, at least two riders, three points and under, in most teams.. Four. The Polish one league rule will pretty much remove most Europeans and Scandinavians from tier two, and remove the doubling up Aussies riding in Poland, who will stay in tier one if they choose the UK, which, given many live here with families will be their clear first choice due to visa requirements... In short. A great opportunity for the desperately needed reset, a huge opportunity to give more development opportunities to young UK riders, and something well, well overdue. With the 2nd tier becoming that bridge, (that it used to be), between the NDL to the Premiership, rather than being "too strong"... And ticks plenty of boxes many on here have suggested for well over a decade!!! Edited Thursday at 10:17 AM by mikebv 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted Thursday at 10:13 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 10:13 AM 2 hours ago, Neila said: Wow I did not know the Plymouth side was that much of an attraction 😜 maybe they thought @lewywas gonna turn up and sign autographs 🤣 I heard they had booked someone from Workington to be interviewed for track prep advice. Very disappointing for the massive crowd he failed to turn up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted Thursday at 11:04 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 11:04 AM 50 minutes ago, foreverblue said: I heard they had booked someone from Workington to be interviewed for track prep advice. Very disappointing for the massive crowd he failed to turn up. Hope he wasn't advising on team selection as well 😂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted Thursday at 11:08 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 11:08 AM 1 hour ago, mikebv said: Certainly, and quite correctly, riders are covering all bases... Just like many have for a long time given they compete in a sport where you can get sacked for doing too well!!! I think the 2nd tier average will be slashed for several reasons.. One. To give clear demarcation between the top two tiers, meaning the league that gets sold to TV is truly a "flagship" one.. Two. The hoped for TV contract should encourage at least two teams to go into tier one, particularly as some tier two teams will be concerned what impact the much lower limit will have on their decent attendance numbers, (given tier two fans are used to watching tier one HL's, so might not see a lesser standard as worth regular attending)... Three. A lower points limit will mean more two and three pont riders needed so development opportunities for more UK riders in a league that doesn't include World Class talent, but is a step up from NDL. You can foresee one decent level No1, who won't ride in Poland, but Double Up, and maybe ride somewhere else in Europe, with, at least two riders, three points and under, in most teams.. Four. The Polish one league rule will pretty much remove most Europeans and Scandinavians from tier two, and remove the doubling up Aussies riding in Poland, who will stay in tier one if they choose the UK, which, given many live here with families will be their clear first choice due to visa requirements... In short. A great opportunity for the desperately needed reset, a huge opportunity to give more development opportunities to young UK riders, and something well, well overdue. With the 2nd tier becoming that bridge, (that it used to be), between the NDL to the Premiership, rather than being "too strong"... And ticks plenty of boxes many on here have suggested for well over a decade!!! Good points, for the future of British Speedway, I don't mind Champ moving closer to NL level. It's such a big jump currently for the next generation to make the step up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted Thursday at 11:09 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 11:09 AM 1 hour ago, TheWellBehavedWorrall said: Might as well hand Poole the league title now. No-one is doing them over two legs. Poole are massive favourites, but Berwick have shown shocks are possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitza Posted Thursday at 11:13 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 11:13 AM (edited) 1 hour ago, mikebv said: Certainly, and quite correctly, riders are covering all bases... Just like many have for a long time given they compete in a sport where you can get sacked for doing too well!!! I think the 2nd tier average will be slashed for several reasons.. One. To give clear demarcation between the top two tiers, meaning the league that gets sold to TV is truly a "flagship" one.. Two. The hoped for TV contract should encourage at least two teams to go into tier one, particularly as some tier two teams will be concerned what impact the much lower limit will have on their decent attendance numbers, (given tier two fans are used to watching tier one HL's, so might not see a lesser standard as worth regular attending)... Three. A lower points limit will mean more two and three pont riders needed so development opportunities for more UK riders in a league that doesn't include World Class talent, but is a step up from NDL. You can foresee one decent level No1, who won't ride in Poland, but Double Up, and maybe ride somewhere else in Europe, with, at least two riders, three points and under, in most teams.. Four. The Polish one league rule will pretty much remove most Europeans and Scandinavians from tier two, and remove the doubling up Aussies riding in Poland, who will stay in tier one if they choose the UK, which, given many live here with families will be their clear first choice due to visa requirements... In short. A great opportunity for the desperately needed reset, a huge opportunity to give more development opportunities to young UK riders, and something well, well overdue. With the 2nd tier becoming that bridge, (that it used to be), between the NDL to the Premiership, rather than being "too strong"... And ticks plenty of boxes many on here have suggested for well over a decade!!! British Speedway Promotion Ltd, well surely that name contravenes some trade description law. Seems to me that the Championship may not be perfect but it is working fairly well, a reasonable number of teams racing to a decent standard. The main problem in British Speedway that needs to be addressed, is the Premiership, too few teams, racing close to second tier standards. If the aim is to make the Premiership TV viable, improve the product. Don't stifle what's working to make a poor product look comparatively better, because the British Premiership is still going to be second rate compared to the other European leagues. Message to BSP Ltd, get off your ar.es do some promoting, work towards making the Premiership a premium product, work on the bits that are broken not the bits that work. Edited Thursday at 11:14 AM by Bitza 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Eck Posted Thursday at 11:17 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 11:17 AM 2 hours ago, spin king junior said: Think as things stand you can rule out Cairns riding in the championship next season. With Poland next season he can only race in one other league, so it'd be a choice between Premiership or Championship if he continues to race in Britain. Is that how it will work? So if a rider had both a Polish under 24 team place and a place in another Polish league, they couldn’t ride in any other country? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Eck Posted Thursday at 11:19 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 11:19 AM 14 hours ago, PhilTheAce said: Disgusting track conditions at poole What are we looking at? A dark uneven line with lighter colours either side? What am I missing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted Thursday at 11:28 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 11:28 AM 7 minutes ago, Wee Eck said: What are we looking at? A dark uneven line with lighter colours either side? What am I missing? The dig at Poole, as usual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted Thursday at 11:38 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 11:38 AM 18 minutes ago, Wee Eck said: What are we looking at? A dark uneven line with lighter colours either side? What am I missing? concrete, where is the shale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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