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  1. Thoughts with everyone at Workington Speedway at this time.
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  2. Point your boss to the "What will 2026 UK speedway bring?" topic thread and I'm sure they'll understand... they may even give you compassionate leave! šŸ˜‚
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  3. Odious man. At least they haven't got his vile spouse involved.
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  4. Based on the most recent attendance figures from 2023 and 2024 (including data from industry analysts Two Circles, government reports, and governing bodies), here are the top attended sports in the UK. The "Big 5" Spectator Sports These five sports generate the vast majority of all ticket sales in the UK, with football being the undisputed king. 1. Football (Men's) * Annual Attendance: ~55 Million+ * Context: The Premier League alone draws nearly 15 million fans. When combined with the EFL (Championship, League 1, League 2), Scottish Premiership, and cups, it dwarfs all other sports combined. * Trend: Consistently breaking records; Premier League occupancy is at ~97%. 2. Horse Racing * Annual Attendance: ~4.8 Million * Context: Historically the UK's second-biggest sport. While numbers have dipped slightly from pre-pandemic highs (approx 6m), major festivals like Cheltenham (250k+), Royal Ascot (300k), and the Grand National still drive massive crowds. 3. Rugby Union * Annual Attendance: ~4 - 5 Million * Context: Driven by the Gallagher Premiership, the United Rugby Championship (Welsh/Scottish teams), and huge international crowds at Twickenham (82k capacity) and the Principality Stadium (74k) for the Six Nations. 4. Cricket * Annual Attendance: ~2.5 - 3 Million * Context: A mix of International Tests (The Ashes are huge), The Hundred (which has boosted numbers significantly), the T20 Blast, and County Championship matches. Lord’s and The Oval regularly sell out summer fixtures. 5. Women’s Football * Annual Attendance: ~2.1 Million (2024 Estimate) * Context: The fastest-growing spectator sport in the UK. According to recent reports, it has now overtaken Rugby League and other traditional sports to break into the top 5, driven by the WSL and Lionesses' success. The "Chasing Pack" (Over 1 Million) 6. Rugby League * Annual Attendance: ~1.5 - 2 Million * Context: Concentrated heavily in the North of England. The Super League draws ~1.5m annually, with the Championship and Challenge Cup adding to the total. 7. Ice Hockey * Annual Attendance: ~1.25 Million * Context: Often cited as the UK’s biggest indoor sport. The Elite Ice Hockey League (EIHL) set a new record in the 2023/24 season, with teams like Sheffield Steelers and Nottingham Panthers drawing large weekly crowds. 8. Greyhound Racing * Annual Attendance: ~1 - 1.2 Million * Context: Has seen a significant decline from its mid-20th-century peak, but the frequency of meetings (daily events at tracks like Romford, Hove, and Monmore) keeps the aggregate attendance numbers high. Major Event & Rising Sports (Top 10-20) Rankings in this section fluctuate based on annual events (e.g., if the UK hosts a World Cup or Commonwealth Games). 9. Tennis * Key Driver: Wimbledon (~530,000 attendees over two weeks). * Total: ~700k (including Queen’s Club, Eastbourne, and Davis Cup events). 10. Motorsport (Formula 1 & Bikes) * Key Driver: The British Grand Prix at Silverstone (~480,000 weekend attendance). * Total: ~1 Million (including MotoGP, British Superbikes, and BTCC). 11. Golf * Key Driver: The Open Championship (~250,000+). * Total: ~400k - 500k (including the PGA Championship at Wentworth and the Scottish Open). 12. Darts * Key Driver: The PDC World Championship (Ally Pally) and Premier League. * Total: ~350k+. The Premier League tour fills large arenas weekly for 4 months. 13. American Football (NFL) * Key Driver: The NFL London Games. * Total: ~250k - 300k. The 3 annual games at Wembley/Tottenham sell out instantly (80k+ per game). 14. Basketball * Key Driver: Super League Basketball (formerly BBL). * Total: ~200k+. Growing fast in urban centers, with high participation converting slowly to viewership. 15. Boxing * Key Driver: Stadium fights (e.g., Joshua/Fury bouts at Wembley/Tottenham). * Total: Variable. A massive stadium year can hit ~250k; a quiet year ~150k. 16. Speedway * Key Driver: The British Speedway Premiership. * Total: ~200k. Declining but retains a loyal following at tracks like Belle Vue (Manchester) and Ipswich. 17. Snooker * Key Driver: World Championship (The Crucible). * Total: ~100k (Limited by small venue capacities despite huge TV figures). 18. Netball * Key Driver: Netball Super League (NSL). * Trend: Rapid growth. The 2024 final drew a record ~8,500 crowd. 19. Athletics * Key Driver: Diamond League (London Stadium). * Total: ~80k - 100k annually. 20. MMA (UFC/Cage Warriors) * Key Driver: UFC London events. * Total: ~30k - 50k (Limited by few events, but always immediate sell-outs).
    5 points
  5. But in those days it was dropping down a standard, today if one league merged into championship and the riders like fricke,Douglas etc all raced in it too Kurtz would still be racing against the same riders from this season, it’s only premier in name, not in quality
    5 points
  6. But .. Apart from that. ? Comparing Chalk and Cheese isn't it? Yet, it appears, some UK promoters seem to think what the UK produces has some similarities.. Baffling... Just deliver the sport you can afford to, with the minimal outlay..
    5 points
  7. The 9 championship clubs will stick together to protect themselves, as they have some form of business acumen. One big league could work, but it most definitely is not feasible to try and plan in December, it needs to be decided in the summer ready for the following season, and it may well be that this happens next year ready for 2027 like you say. But Ipswich, and Belle Vue, need to realise that it is unsustainable to continue to bring in GP superstars, forcing teams who can’t financially afford to compete to go to the wall and go under for the sake of two or three clubs.
    4 points
  8. Fans from other teams breathing a sigh of relief! šŸ˜‚
    4 points
  9. Welcome back to Workington Batch
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  10. How many times did we hear Tatum & co last season more or less saying that playoffs is the real part of the season? In that case, just skip the majority of the season and stage playoffs in October between 4 clubs who want to and able do it. Leave team building until September with a high points limit so that riders no longer involved in Poland and Sweden can make a few extra bucks. Call it the Bet Victor Super Series, get it onto YouTube tv, with 'Arry and Phil fronting the whole thing. Sorted!
    4 points
  11. You have one problem with your one big league for 2026, and that’s the fact that none of the 9 championship clubs will bow down to the Ipswich way.
    4 points
  12. An interesting list. Of course in person attendance is not the only metric. Sports like darts, snooker, athletics, MMA etc are way, way, way more valuable and have massively bigger attendances when looking at TV and social media. In terms of participation, motocross, angling, pool, martial arts and golf are all way bigger than speedway. This is another important metric to consider, as participants are a major part of the sport's economy. Speedway's reliance on paying spectators at trackside is another reason why the business model fails.
    3 points
  13. It looks like you are contriving issues in speedway and ignoring what goes on in the world of sport generally. The guest system is not ideal but can't be seen as an issue otherwise betting companies wouldn't offer odds on British league speedway which they have done for years. The British and Irish Lions select a national rugby manager to coach them thus the manager effectively coaches two teams - again a non-issue as it is in speedway as the teams don't face each other across leagues/competitions. A rider easing off to let their teammate through - is that any different from the main striker in football passing up taking a penalty to his teammate so his teammate can get a hat trick? Or a rugby player making an unnecessary extra pass for his teammate to touch it down? Or team tactics in formula one where a driver may be asked to make way for their teammate? All are non-issues to betting companies.
    3 points
  14. I know a fair few people who have given up on the forum because of what’s written above. Speedway has enough problems, it doesn’t need all us fighting each other. We should ALL be doing our best to bring people to the sport, not name calling and insulting each other. As a Poole fan who’s attended for as long as I can remember, I enjoy being able to post on various pages, it’s what makes the forum enjoyable, enlightening and most importantly SPEEDWAY!
    3 points
  15. Time to bring back Fred Truman's Indoor League, Speedway would fit in quite nicely 😁
    2 points
  16. Christ, you were on that quickly. I hadn’t even pressed confirm on the edit!
    2 points
  17. Probably based on promoters tax returns šŸ˜‰ I'm joking I'm joking interesting stats. I wonder what happens if TV viewing figures were added?
    2 points
  18. Rushen going to Workington
    2 points
  19. Love the energy on this forum. Everyone’s so pleasant.
    2 points
  20. Good signing imo, not a No 1 these days but mostly solid scores, often good when a HT 13 + 15 result required. Will be a good back up to Jeppesen at No 1. @lewy will be disappointed as he wanted him at Plymouth šŸ˜„
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  21. Obviously you're taking the p regarding a serious professional sport. Can you, or any other forum poster, remember when speedway was classed as the second most popular UK sport? (after football). I'm not taking the p but maybe my old memory bank is letting me down?
    2 points
  22. Have a bit of faith in your team, that's what I like to see. Bearing in mind that the Bears had a very good 25 season coupled to the one over 8 rule, then you inevitably had to loose riders for 26.To me the 26 Bears look to be a sound team, who should be contenders for silverware.
    2 points
  23. The Worky accountant been pulling strings again
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  24. There will be a fair few promoters not bothered about making any profit at all... For them, it is a hobby that they happily fund, in several ways, differing from club to club.. A "successful team" could actually adversely impact these type of clubs, even up to the point of closure as we have seen in the past... The losses expected will be budgeted for, with "winning at home regularly" being their No1 aim for the season.. These clubs won't grow their support like Ipswich did last season for example, as they don't have historical large fan bases which can "come out of the woodwork" when success happens.. For them, they will maintain a certain following which won't fluctuate much win, lose or draw, and also know that spending excessive money in trying to win something that delivers such small reward isn't really worth the risk...
    2 points
  25. Ipswich have a part in all this ,where’s their buyer it’s all a bit of a shambles.Sheffield don’t exactly look rosy.You can’t blame Championship for going ahead with their plans.You seem to be clutching at straws.
    2 points
  26. The Championship winners wouldn't do it They would be shaking like a big girls blouse worried they may incur an extra fiver in costs to stage the meeting
    2 points
  27. The old 2nd division was a far superior standard to that we would get with one big league now.... None of the 'stars' would drop into it on a merger anyway so it is rather a mute point
    2 points
  28. I really rate Cairns and I’m sure his reserve partner will be capable, knowing Poole’s team building abilities, but I’m surprised the Hagon/Hodder pairing are being written off above. I think our reserves will surprise a few.
    2 points
  29. Given his previous, I don't expect Mario Hausl or Antonio Lindback to be on his fave rider list.
    2 points
  30. I was going to ask if you'd looked at the Speedway Researcher page......but then I saw that it was you who had compiled it! 😁
    2 points
  31. personally think there are some big question marks over the Glasgow team and not sure why everyone has slotted them in as favourites. If Rushen signs then Poole are by far the clear favourites for the league.
    2 points
  32. I hope it’s Perry because I hope he secures a Championship spot next season. I don’t think many could argue against retaining Hodder at his expense, but if you could bottle Max Perry’s desire and effort, you’d make a fortune. He’s got the bravery to go wide, but I think physically, he appeared to struggle to control his momentum coming off the second and fourth bends; he subsequently often lost that momentum. He’ll be a great prospect for any club.
    2 points
  33. Agreed think pooles 1-5 will be weaker than Oxford’s rumoured top 5 and Glasgow well we will wait and see as they have 2 unknown riders in at 2&4. And as you say Poole look strong in the reserve berth with the potential signing of Cooper Rushen,on paper one of the stronger pairings but not many reserve pairings have been announced yet,actually thinking about it I would have to say Redcars reserve pairing has to be the strongest looking at it again.
    2 points
  34. Where are those averages available? You’re looking at it from a Poole pov, I’m a neutral, Kyle Howarth and Scott Nicholls are better than Zach Cook, both average wise, and just from watching them. Zach Cook scored 5pts at Plymouth three times, 4 at Edinburgh, 4 at Berwick last season, those 3 teams weren’t amongst the best in the league (slightly harsh on Edinburgh from myself, but it was a 3 horse race last year really). He was at Berwick before the signings of Morris and Jeppesen and only managed to beat Smith, his 4 other points came from falls and retirements. At Edinburgh he beat Grahn and Starke, his other two points were from retirements. This was all whilst riding at the considerably easier number 4 position. Compare his scores to Kyle Howarth, who’s lowest score was 6, at Poole, and a bunch of 7’s, but ultimately far more consistent around the tracks, at number 5. Scott Nicholls scored 7+3 away to Edinburgh on his comeback meeting, a poor score of 3 on his home debut then managed at least 9 thereafter.
    2 points
  35. God how privileged do you Poole fans think you are ? People come on here with genuine debate or questions, but you don't like it and call people names šŸ˜— fair enough maybe, but it's not clever, and to make matters worse you are all over other threads saying the same tings. Let's keep it all speedway orientated and stop the stupid name calling.
    2 points
  36. So what if he is? Maybe he’s new to the sport. Common courtesy and helping somebody doesn’t cost anything.
    2 points
  37. Does anyone have any idea when the 2026 fixtures will be released, or even a rough idea? I ask because I’m being asked to forecast work trips abroad in Q3, but I’d prefer not to miss any speedway, so I’m hoping to plan around the fixtures when they’re available.
    1 point
  38. You got your wishšŸ˜‚
    1 point
  39. I thank you for your concern .
    1 point
  40. Made some amends for the May performance up in heats 13, 15, and superheat at Scunthorpe alongside Antti later on in the season mind...
    1 point
  41. Not that it would matter anyway no chance of him riding for a Saturday club with his polish commitments anyway.
    1 point
  42. Luke Killeen and Mitch Mcdiarmid signed by Oxford.
    1 point
  43. Spot on Bagpuss as ever the key is having a rider come in on false average and Poole have not one but two young lads who will be prime examples of this. Then so long as the top five are half decent you will be there or there abouts. Well Poole have one of the best riders in this league , Zach Cook if back should really push on and Gilkes if he stays injury free has potential as well. Final point the Fords don't also hang around if they are struggling at the halfway stage.
    1 point
  44. Know it’s a big ā€˜if’ there’s one big league (personally think there’ll be a Premiership and Championship), but what makes people think Sheffield would want Pickering? Know his initial demands when talking to Sheffield didn’t go down too well with the people who will be involved running the club at Premiership level (I’ll let them announce themselves), and with his average being heavily biased based around home form there’s more consistent riders out there they could look at. Pickering at Scunthorpe In Championship is good for both parties, just now where he’ll end up in Premiership unless he out prices himself again like he’s done again in Polands (with Ekstraliga 2 and National League teams) after Leszno decided he wasn’t good enough for Ekstraliga
    1 point
  45. Don’t know where Bonjangles got them from, but they are all available on GBSpeedway. It’s a fantastic site if you’ve never used it before… https://www.gbspeedway.com/2025/averagelist.php?mc1=x&mc2=a&mc3=y&mc4=x&search=all&sort=average&meets=All&bp=inc&hora=all&num=&league=B&oleague=B&mleague=B&above=&lower=&upper=&below=
    1 point
  46. Howarth averaged considerably more than Cook from a more difficult riding position.
    1 point
  47. Entertainment wise? I would suggest with Glasgow, Scunthorpe, Redcar, and Workington, the second tier, overall, delivers better racing... With, the NSS being the only top tier track that consistently delivers a similar standard...
    1 point
  48. Can't agree, there is obviously a power source already, track warning lights, etc, don't run on gas. Forty years ago, Berrington Lough was totally self-contained and ran everything -- including floodlights -- by generator, which wasn't a huge one. I'm certain things have moved on space since then, and you could power a stadium with a fairly compact generation unit
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