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Poole Pirates Vs Oxford Cheetahs k.o.c 2nd Leg 20th May


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2 hours ago, ASpeedwayfan said:

Got to feel for Bowes, a good win in his first heat, going up the inside of Masters down the back straight, a little untidy but a good win. Before making a good gate and leading for 3 laps before what seemed to be a nasty off. Could’ve been 6/6 but instead on way to hospital. 

Rib and back pain is being mentioned.

PS it was announced at the end of meeting presentations that Fraser had texted from Poole Hospital that injuries did not appear as bad as first thought!

PPS Danny Ford apologised for the track conditions this evening - they put too much shale down and then overwatered.

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20 minutes ago, SteveLyric2 said:

Rib and back pain is being mentioned.

PS it was announced at the end of meeting presentations that Fraser had texted from Poole Hospital that injuries did not appear as bad as first thought!

PPS Danny Ford apologised for the track conditions this evening - they put too much shale down and then overwatered.

Pity the track team didn't spot/sort the bump on turn one sooner, or even before the meeting started. Various riders including Lawson had issues before Fraser. Prior to the off Bowes was showing his doubters (mainly it seems from Workington) what he is capable of. I can see the potential, even if they can't, here's to a speedy recovery. 

Good well deserved result, Master's really is far more flaky than the hype suggests, fast if he gates sure but doesn't like to mix it. 

 

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1 hour ago, Bitza said:

Pity the track team didn't spot/sort the bump on turn one sooner, or even before the meeting started. Various riders including Lawson had issues before Fraser. Prior to the off Bowes was showing his doubters (mainly it seems from Workington) what he is capable of. I can see the potential, even if they can't, here's to a speedy recovery. 

Good well deserved result, Master's really is far more flaky than the hype suggests, fast if he gates sure but doesn't like to mix it. 

 

Bowes may have potential but had an attitude problem at worky last year. Which the fans and the management did not like.

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26 minutes ago, geoff100 said:

Reading mr fords statement it seems put some dirt down and modern riders cant handle it !

The shape of the tracks determine whether "putting dirt down" works or not...

The more circular ones benefit from it, the more "oval" ones ride easier when slick and smooth, especially given the way riders go in to the bends already virtually full on sideways, and full gas, these days...

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35 minutes ago, geoff100 said:

Reading mr fords statement it seems put some dirt down and modern riders cant handle it !

What this statement ? It was like a ploughed field.

“It has been a really challenging evening and I just want to say thank you so much to everyone. I’m really, really sorry for tonight. I’m so disappointed in what we put out there in terms of the track preparation. No excuses — we will put our hands up — we absolutely got it wrong. Full credit to the riders for doing what they could in racing in those conditions. Of course, we are sending our messages of support to Fraser, but yes, we are just really sorry and would ask you all to stick with us. We are going to get it sorted.”

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46 minutes ago, Toady said:

What this statement ? It was like a ploughed field.

“It has been a really challenging evening and I just want to say thank you so much to everyone. I’m really, really sorry for tonight. I’m so disappointed in what we put out there in terms of the track preparation. No excuses — we will put our hands up — we absolutely got it wrong. Full credit to the riders for doing what they could in racing in those conditions. Of course, we are sending our messages of support to Fraser, but yes, we are just really sorry and would ask you all to stick with us. We are going to get it sorted.”

Hasn't that just been recycled from last year... and the year before... and the year before that... and the yea... etc. etc.

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21 minutes ago, IainB said:

Hasn't that just been recycled from last year... and the year before... and the year before that... and the yea... etc. etc.

Interestingly all the race times were on a par with this season's meetings.

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13 hours ago, SteveLyric2 said:

Rib and back pain is being mentioned.

PS it was announced at the end of meeting presentations that Fraser had texted from Poole Hospital that injuries did not appear as bad as first thought!

PPS Danny Ford apologised for the track conditions this evening - they put too much shale down and then overwatered.

Poole with to much shale, and water..  Now you don't hear that very often;)

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18 minutes ago, foreverblue said:

Yes those words normally associated with Kings Lynn!

Lots of shale and water won't work on a bumpy old track. Bumps a grip don't mix well :P

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6 hours ago, Pirates Of Poole said:

Think that will be Fraser out for 8 weeks. 

IF Bowes could be out for up to 8 weeksw where does that put Poole in regards to replacement/s.

Are Cairns & Cairns allowed to cover that whole period, if not for how long.

Read on Google AI that a pierced lung and fluid on the lung can clear in as little as 2 weeks but that would seem maybe unrealistic if you are planning to race again so quickly after the injury. Then there is his back.

I wonder if it is a long period, would Bailey maybe reconsider UK bearing in mind he is not getting many opportunities overseas.

His DK Team only used him for one match so far seemingly giving preference to home talent Villards Pedersen. Even in last nights postponed match after Bewley's seriour injury.

His POL Team Grudiatz havent seen fit not  to include him in their first team again favouring more local young riders. 

That only leaves their U24 Team where they have only ridden 2 matches in the new 4 team U24 format on Tuesdays. He rode in both.

I wonder if a combo of Cairs/Rushen for as long as possible or for a while and a later introduction of Bailey would be possible.

In  a way I feel for Bowes but you have to question how he is having so many crashes in Aussie/UK. Could be bad luck. So frustrating as well considering how well he rode in those 2 races up to the point of his latest fall.

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4 hours ago, geoff100 said:

Reading mr fords statement it seems put some dirt down and modern riders cant handle it !

It's more the bikes than the riders.  The modern lay-down reacts much better on a slicker surface, plus the bikes are now easier to race and pass when the track is slick.  The power the bikes now have means they launch if the track has too much grip.

Although, last night, I think the biggest problem wasn't the level of grip but the big rut halfway around the first and second bend. Dayle Wood hit it Heat 2 and lost his chain. Race leader Anders Rowe hit during Heat 4 but managed to stay on. Fraser Bowes hit it in Heat 6 and was less lucky.

 

 

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