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Thumbs up to the Comets management š just been in town and the local electronic advertising board at bottom of Ramsey brow, main entrance into the town, has a message for all to see. Thank you to all supporters and sponsors for supporting us 2025 season6 points
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Can you join border force - that's a better effort than the current lot5 points
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Have to totally disagree there, King is definitely Number 1 material. 2nd highest away average in the whole league behind Sam Masters (9.30) Plus won 49 heats in total, Only Masters, Lawson and Harris were ahead of him.5 points
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This is were Speedway will (and always has done) fall down. How to maintain that engagement at live meetings? You're trying to attract the next generation which have the attention spans of a fish. For a newbie, going to a live meeting today, 2½ hours for about 40mins of entertainment, if you're in to practice starts & laps of honour. Otherwise, it's 15mins of entertainment. For that privilege, it cost Ā£25. Also, the quality of the Stadia in the UK, for any middle/upper class citizen its horrific. The truth is, British Speedway is lower class trying to sell itself to the affluent. This is were it's not working. 100%, the attendances would be far higher if it was Ā£10/15 with an Offy, a Vape Shop & a Turkish barbers selling class A's. The sport would be as big as football then š¤£5 points
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Beau Bailey will need to finish in the top 4 in a Aussie state championship to be able to qualify for a uk visa.4 points
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All those things are great and may have got a lot of people through the door but when they attend and stand out in the cold/wind being 'entertained' by someone on a mic talking drivel or just music for what seems like an eternity balanced against the 15 minutes of actual races, of which two were interesting then most won't come back. It's the entertainment at the track on the night which has to improve - and I don't mean just more races. More interaction, more involvement of fans in the night, interactive social media, rider interaction, play areas/side shows and many other ideas that people have mentioned before.4 points
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Danny had a hand injury so it had to be managed, so he took fewer ht 15s. Danny is a quality rider, but he is also good with younger team mates giving advice and helping. He's a great team man.3 points
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Tunners would put on a point at the bare minimum riding the NSS every other week. Heād be a far better signing for Belle Vue than anyone else IMO. Having watched a fair bit of PHB the last couple of years as well, heād be a huge home favourite very quickly. Track is tailor made for him. Keeping the best top two in the league as well and youād outgun everyone else in 13 and 15. If that is the team, I think weād see @AceBellerise from the dead very quickly on here⦠š3 points
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This is what weāve done to attract fans to Belle Vue over the last decade or soā¦.. Have an advert on local radio over an extended period of time. Have an advert in local newspapers over an extended period of time. Have an advertising board on some of the busiest roads in Manchester. Have posters in shops and businesses. Had out flyers in local shopping areas. Have a float or attend local fairs and carnivals. Attend local trade shows. Give out free tickets to schools and businesses. Take bikes and merchandise into schools to accompany the talk they deliver on the sport. Be featured on local tv newsās 4 or 5 times between March and October. Have a regular editorial in local papers. Have a 30 minute highlights programme on a local tv satellite station. Form a tie up with local groups and offer free entry and supporters club membership. Attend (and win) local sports team of the year awards. Iāve probably missed a few others.3 points
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Agreed but I think theyāll bring him back, they are loyal to a fault with a lot of riders and Hume also seems very popular with the casual Bandits fan, you can see that just by looking at the comments on Facebook for the last couple of seasons. I think for similar reasons weāll see Jack Smith back despite the fact he has probably peaked in his ability he seems very popular with the promotion and fans alike. Personally I would have neither if your goal is to try and win a trophy or at least make the play offs for the first time in over a decade but that doesnāt often seem the goal.3 points
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If thatās whatās being considered it just shows how much trouble the so called Premiership is in.Desperate times for the sport.If thatās their answer to keeping a failing League. Cant possibly see how that will be viable.2 points
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Luke Harrisonās Facebook page has been implying he wonāt be back at scunny next year. Would be a tremendous shame as heās developing nicely however I understand his dad will want him to try different tracks2 points
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This is exactly what I am getting at. You need to make it easy to stumble across as well as keeping it short enough to keep viewers engaged (not too much nothingness between heats).2 points
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Many amateur and semi pro sports teams on YouTube do it themselves... A 4k Go pro camera being the usual camera of choice... Some have over 250,000 followers and subscribers... 20 mins the maximum needed to maintain the interest of the "younger generation".. Making the riders the stars being just as important, (maybe even more so), than even the action on show... Pre meeting arrival of the riders, track walk snippets, a bit of action interspersed with pits conversations, post match celebrations and sound bites from the managers and riders.. Speedway clubs should have done this, at least, five years ago... However, middle aged (and older), white males generally wouldn't see the huge opportunities that such "programmes" can open up given the algorithm used will take you from one to another... Another opportunity missed by only using those within the "speedway bubble echo chamber"....2 points
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And, I must admit.... I was completely unaware of pretty much all of them... The half hour on satellite TV was, I think, on M and Motors which was a US cable type local station, which I saw once... I do live in Stockport though, not Manchester, but do drive through the city often and haven't been aware of any billboards other than SON and GP ones which appeared when their events were held in Manchester... Good to see such initiatives are alive though, but there looks like there still isn't the output for the input... And, once again, it is done at local and not national level, which is where the sport needs to be marketing itself using a professional marketing company...2 points
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I dread to think what attendances would have been like at Belle Vue if none of the efforts listed above had taken place?2 points
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Speaking as a former sponsor rider's start off grateful end up demanding , maybe just my bad luck but it happened almost everytime2 points
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Bluey Scott, Charlie Monk, Nils Paulsen, Trevor Redmond, Bruce Ovenden, Willie Templeton & Graham Coombes. Maury Mattingley on bike, Two Aussies, Two Kiwis (3 if you count Trevor), One Norwegian, One Englishman and a Scot. Not many 2.5% reductions there......2 points
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Something that never gets mentioned about Poland and their huge pay structure is riders can also get huge fines/deductions from the clubs for sometimes the most innocuous reasons like mechanic wearing wrong team shirt at a match or not displaying PGE extraleague sticker on back door of van or whatever but one thing it does do is get 100% dedication from the riders, it gets discipline and as a result you get a product that has credibility2 points
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The thing is... If someone is "OK" at spending a quarter of a million to keep a Speedway team going... They would do the sport far more good by just putting that amount up as prize money... Many come on here saying "sponsors pay for the No1's" when someone mentions the cost of them and that the gate revenue wouldn't support their inclusion... Again, these "wealthy sponsors", putting in high five figure numbers, at individual tracks, would raise the sports profile NATIONALLY far more by using this money to make a "huge" prize pot, than any individual rider would raise it by riding for any team... Literally MILLIONS has been pumped into the sport by TV, Sponsors, admission money and the deep pockets of the owners.... And the return on such a huge investment is what we have today... A strange "insular" use of an enormous resource pool that could have got some traction if used more broadly for increasing the sports awareness amongst the wider UK public...2 points
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Northampton Saints with Travis Perkins as Team sponsor to tie in with Rugby union team was the latest that I had heard.I believe there is some people who are involved in both sports that are part of this new venture. Them work progressing through the summer to move to Northampton later in year or 20272 points
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Wouldnāt have thought a single Lynn supporter would be at all bothered with that. Maybe Iām wrong but Iād say the majority if not all, would be over the moon to sign up a genuine class number 1 and the leagues best rider this season just gone. Wasnāt just the heavy points he scored either, it was the way he scored them. Seemed very entertaining which Iām sure the Leicester fans will verify. Fricke would give the club and supporters a massive lift.2 points
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The sinking ship called the Premier League is heading for the rocks. Loss of UK venues has been a major factor in recent years. Their defunct club supporters have all probably been lost to the sport never to return. Established stadia with a speedway oval and capable of housing a few thousand patrons in reasonable comfort aren't out there. An ever ageing but dwindling nucleus of speedway supporters with fond memories of past glory still cling on to the wreckage in traditional speedway hotspots. Attempts to promote clubs from the Championship League have been tried and I cannot name one that has been successful ? Costs of operating on the Premier League (although a closely guarded secret) and the restrictive race nights of operation are certainly a major issue. The money for riders is in Poland nowadays, why any of them ride in the UK can only be for personal reasons, it cannot be for the money on offer. WHEN will the league decay into one league and a training Conference league ? The PL cannot hold out for much longer.2 points
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You've proved my point. Speedway (and the others you mentioned) were not viable, hence they chose to redevelop the site. Wimbledon previously closed in 1991 for exactly the same reason. And both 1991 and 2005 were periods when Speedway was in better shape than it is now! There is absolutely NO chance of Wimbledon, Coventry, Swindon, or any other closed tracks being revived and the sooner these campaigners open their eyes and get on with their lives, tbe better. Everyone is getting excited about Buxton - that won't last the season for exactly the same reason. Speedway. Is. Not. Viable.2 points
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Sounds like he is our new No1 thenš. I like Danny great professional and team man. He goes great at the GT Tyres Arena. What I question in the No1 position is, is he the man who will go out in heat 15 and win you the meeting. Time will tell by the sound of things šš¤š1 point
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Agreed White Knight I don't like putting boot into promoters as most must be losing money to different degrees every single year . You look at this year and think god help them if no tv deal, some top men leaving, whoever the lamb is at Northampton being served up to save the top league and seeming these people have no idea of business plan costs for Northampton already and looking to run at Oxford for the first year. I forsee a situation where they will most likely chuck it in after one year at Oxford and realise they are on a hiding to nothing and not bother with Northampton in 2027 and hopefully haven't bankrupted themselves in the process. We are probably beyond the point of saving now sadly its just gone to far certainly in the top league bar Harry somehow getting the arabs involved or he can talk Amazon into doing a program like "Clarkeson's speedway track"1 point
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There is a lot of negativity on here, and little wonder. Our Sport seems to be staggering on being wafted around like a leaf in the wind. I don't know what will happen when Rachel Reeves starts increasing this Tax and that Tax. I feel that disposable income in most homes will be needed for food, mortgages, rents, fuel, electricity and gas etc.. Things are very bad at present - things could get even worse soon for all of us, not just Speedway Supporters. I sincerely hope I am wrong, but I'm afraid I cannot see a light at the end of the tunnel. Sorry.1 point
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It's because there is no coordinated follow up plan... It is just "Build it and they will come".... The reality is you need to get people attending at least three times to get engaged and (hopefully), see at least one decent meeting... To make a fundamental change to your life you need to do something consistently for 28 days... Speedway need to get people attending regularly and it starts with those vital 28 days... Email and Mobile details, free family tickets, constant communication, feedback from their first visit requested, etc etc etc... Expecting them to return after one visit, even if free/discounted, and pay full price next time, is asking a lot... But, that often appears to be "the plan" at many tracks... Glasgow, and Plymouth, showing what can be done...1 point
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Ummm and his average is so high, ours is the only sport you get penalised for doing well, hope I'm wrong.1 point
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4.91 after 2.5% Reduction (5.04) so Nathan doesn't fit. 4.84 left if it's Picko (7.76 PREM Avg x 1.5 = 11.64), Mountain, Harrison, Palm Toft, S. Lambert and Ingram.1 point
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It would be just our luck if the only one over 8 rule came in again. The first time it was implemented was at the end of the 2017 season and after decades we finally had two riders with 8 plus averages and sadly had to let Bjerre go. Many teams had two riders over 8 during those decades but would you believe it as soon as we do a rule comes in to break us up. Dammit. Apart from 2017, Dan & Brady are the only other two to achieve such a feet in all those decades. Fingers crossed a purely random rule doesnāt affect us again.1 point
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Whilst I have insider knowledge , due to being a sponsor ,no one could tell you accurately EVER rider deal as itās different for each rider at each club, from Ā£10 a point and 20p a mile in the NDL to Premiership thousands pounds guarantees and flights. Then add in sponsorship deals, bonuses, signing on fees , mechanics, accommodation which some clubs , the ātopā teams, can add into a deal. A rider I sponsor who doubles up in the top two leagues is on a guarantee in the Premiership, a partial guarantee in the championship with points money to top that up soā¦. Now stand back and wait for others ā GUESTIMATESāā¦.1 point
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Just another track that got bigger crowds at weekend when the majority of the country has its leisure time... Regardless of who turned up to race....1 point
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Credit to Louis but it equally helps that he has a wealthy sponsor who's a massive speedway fan.1 point
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My main concern is Kerr's "mechanicals", he's poor meetings in 25 have all too often come down to avoidable mechanical issues, what he really needs in 26 is good machinery and somebody to prepare his bikes in a thorough professional manner. Spanner men can play a crucial role.1 point
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Thatās why I donāt like the 1 eight point rider rule per team. As long as each team sticks to the team average thatās fine in my books1 point
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