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Dont waste your time mate.... The last time I went to see him I asked for a real 12ft Dragon, one that flew as high as the clouds, and could breatlhe fire... He told me that there were certain things that even Father Christmas couldn't promise to deliver so, just in case he couldn't get me a real, flying, fire breathing Dragon, he asked me what my second wish was... So I asked him if he could make UK Speedway affordable, popular, exciting, ran with integrity and credibility and relevant as a sport in the 21st Century... He pondered this for a while, looked away, and thought intensely for a few moments, then looked me straight in the eye and said... "What colour would you like that Dragon lad?"...8 points
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There is a lot of talk about teams like Belle Vue and Ipswich (if they run) having to "drop down" next season, but, of course, if the Premier League as it currently exists is no longer, the new single league will, de facto, be the top league, so, actually, it is a matter of the other teams moving up! It's just that the standard won't be so good.8 points
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It’s just not good enough, it’s destined to fail, fans don’t want it, it doesn’t interest me at all7 points
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Then eventually the whole thing will go broke so the choices are Overpay and go broke Pay what you can afford and reset the whole sport on a semi professional basis if that what it takes. It might not work but it's much better than going skint7 points
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It was literally three or so weeks ago that Chris Louis and Ritchie Hawkins were on local radio stating the hard work was already underway to build another top challenging team for next year. So this isn’t something that has been brewing for a while, something has happened at the BSPL meetings very recently that has made him throw in the towel. Fans of other clubs have been very quick to stick the boot in on the bloke. But in Louis’ defence, he has stated quite clearly that he’ll be working “tirelessly” over the coming weeks and months to make sure the club is left in safe hands. After everything he’s done, he deserves that time, and the benefit of the doubt to see what exactly these “safe hands” the club has been left in, are. If we end up with no speedway at Foxhall in 2026 and the club left in limbo, then he’ll have tarnished the whole Louis legacy and I’ll be the first to criticise.7 points
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No different to no Championship club wanting to move up No different from (allegedly) Premiership teams being blocked from joining the Championship No different from those blocking 'one big league' in various guises All as bad as each other then really....6 points
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I just love all these business experts popping up on here, and giving 'advice' on something they have absolutely no clue about. Hilarious...😂6 points
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I, personally, cannot wait for one league... Loads of new tracks to visit, several weekends away... My concern is we end up with two leagues of Mickey Mouse, contrived, same old/same old, bollox.. Like we have had for 20 Years and more... What an opportunity for the sport to reset itself, relaunch itself, and make a UK Speedway Brand...6 points
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I'd much rather have that than no Foxhall to go to on a Thursday night thanks!5 points
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I didn't say he had, I said that's what you don't do as a business owner... not if you want to realise it's full value. All we know at the moment is that he's "stepped down" from the club, whatever that means? He's perfectly entitled to put his business up for sale, continue running or close it down, that's his decision. But it's not just a business is it, it's a sporting club with a long and rich tradition that many people have a strong emotional attachment to and they've not really had a mention. ... So stick that in your "pipe" and smoke it5 points
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Half of sweet naff all. No one would buy into a club or a sport where the business model and future is determined by third parties and the investor has no say as to when and how you run your business because the speedway ‘masons’ decide what will and will not be. Those running the sport need to get real but unfortunately they are so far up their own backsides and do not realise that the current business model does not work and also fail to grasp the fact that the sport is being run into the ground because they cannot see the wood for the trees. Not only have those who are custodians of the sport let down the investors and potential investors but have from a great height pissed on every punter who pays to watch the sport and frankly the supporter is just cannon fodder.4 points
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A shredding machine to put your hard earned cash straight into and what you have left the bspl will send their special magician round to mysteriously make it all disappear in to the pockets of the few, just incase some think I’m posting an in the know post, it’s just a bit of fun, you don’t get a shredding machine4 points
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The issue is a real drop in standard but not being able to drop admission costs to match. coupled with less sponsorship money coming in & the likelihood that gates would drop. That lower standard turns what was a decent business model at Ipswich in speedway terms to one that loses money.3 points
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That’s another one I do enjoy listening to. Yes I do like a bit of humour. I was wondering if the top league does continue with 4 teams it could be a first for kings lynn. To reach the playoffs and collect the wooden spoon in the same season !!3 points
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we would rather have a premiership with all the top riders, i am going to ask father Christmas if he can sort it.3 points
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It’s been brought about by decades of self-interest and mismanagement across the board. The top league wasn’t sustainable, it was a money pit and that has been evident for longer than the last month or so. It’s not a knee jerk implosion. Let’s not kid ourselves that it is.3 points
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As we have a chance for a major reset in UK speedway, I’d like to ask any mechanical boffins how easy is it to make the kit massively cheaper? You can’t just change regs overnight in a big way as that sees riders with expensive & unusable out of date parts but can costs be driven down with minor tweaks as time goes on? A speedway bike will always be a speedway bike but it would be nice to have a cheaper alternative to the highly tuned rocket ships currently blighting the domestic scene.3 points
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I personally have nothing but respect for CL he has been a wonderful servant to s/way as a rider and promoter ,I am certain in real terms owners /promoters in s/way do it for the love of the sport . I tried in the 70's to persuade my father to buy a speedway team (he was a massive fan of the sport) his reply was it is thankless and profitless passtime at best. Chris L has made a huge decision I would image it is one of the hardest things he's had to do in his entire s/way career .3 points
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Fair play if he can afford to buy Poland just by pulling his sponsorship of Sheffield.3 points
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Could be the four I mentioned and one from the Championship or a.n other if Ipswich don’t get sold. If it IS a five team league, they’re simply going to have to change the rules and do away with play offs for next year at least. Top team wins the title. It’s the only way.2 points
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I have posted this before but Was a big fan of John Perrin, straight talking northerner, he didn’t care who he offended, had some laughs in his company whenever I raced at or for belle vue, I know he was owing money to riders from time to time but he never owed me any, Graham dury was a marmite character too, riding for Graham I found him awkward but when not riding for him we often had long chats about the sport and he often backed me when I was speaking my mind about the sport, he offered me team managers job at Birmingham which I turned down and he told me he didn’t understand why I turned it down but respected me for not just taking it if I didn’t want it2 points
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Because they don’t want to lose money on additional meetings helping bringing British youngsters through unless those youngsters are prepared to pay for everything from racing here or abroad and then if the odd one suceeds they claim them and shower them with affection until they blow up and walk away and deny they ever existed! And that’s where the story ends2 points
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Pretty sure their only requirement is that next season is financially viable. So let's hope it meets that. For ALL clubs2 points
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Statement from the city of Gorzow as to rising costs and unfair system where smaller speedway cities such as Prague / Riga etc are demanded much less of a payment to SGP than “larger” speedway cities. Gorzow decided to relinquish their GP this year to get finances in order… “Councilors pointed out that Praga paid less to host the Grand Prix than Gorzów. They believed this demonstrated that the rules imposed on cities were not equal. "If Praga pays less than Gorzów, something is wrong. This demonstrates the absurdity of the entire system," the councilors said. In 2024 and 2025, the city donated PLN 2.5 million each to organize the Grand Prix at the Edward Jancarz Stadium, and in recent years, a total of nearly PLN 10 million has been spent on the Grand Prix. This difference in costs, they argued, demonstrated that the conditions imposed on cities were not transparent, and that smaller cities could be treated as "budget donors." Councillors admitted, however, that the absence of the Grand Prix in 2026 could be a financial relief for the city. Perhaps this is the time to clean up and resume talks, but under normal conditions. They pointed out that the Grand Prix was becoming increasingly expensive, and new promoters might demand even more. Councilors said that Gorzów should not abandon major events. They pointed out specific directions. The councilor mentioned the Edward Jancarz Memorial, which for years was the most important tournament before the league's launch. Piotr Paluch emphasized that the city could return to speedway events, but must do so in a way that doesn't burden the budget. "Normal rules first. Only then should discussions about a return," concluded Councilor Piotr Paluch.2 points
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Re-brand it as the 'British Super League' for national media attention and 'Bob's your Uncle', job's a good'un !!2 points
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Humans Of Speedway podcast has been off for a couple of years, but coming back. Got Bruce Penhall first up hopefully in the next week, it’s almost finished but will also be with video on Spotify and YouTube. But there’s nearly 60 previous episodes2 points
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Four ex promoters, all fighting back the tears whilst describing their own tales of woe regarding the loss of their teams. Developers, said the first. I couldn’t make it pay said the second, I really tried. My landlord kicked us out, said the third, they didn’t want us, it was so sad. They look to the fourth as they all hold hands united in sadness and ask, what about you? He replies, sobbing, I didn’t get my own way this time.2 points
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And he hasn’t done that has he Iain? You haven’t got the first clue what is going on so pipe down. It’s not your money or business at stake here. If Louis feels what is currently on the table isn’t something he wants any part with, he’s perfectly entitled to make that decision. His money, his business.2 points
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Well this would be an interesting time for the fans to come good and buy the club 😉 In another sport - AFC Wimbledon announced recently that a fan owned model isn't sustainable in football at the level they operate at, I rather suspect it wouldn't in top tier speedway speedway either!2 points
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The value of any club is questionable and depends who owns the track and stadia. To categorise what may be for sale, firstly you may have the assignment of the lease where a club rents the track but the landlord is unlikely to agree where the terms of which do not match the current lessee’s obligations. if you overcome the assignment issue then a sale in terms of assetS will be determined by a fair valuation of what is on the balance This will include the security deposit paid to the BSP, and a few other fixed assets and I suspect that rider contracts are not binding on transfer of the business ownership and the renewal thereof will be based on a number of factors. After the foregoing it is reality what is left in terms of fixed assets such as graders, air fence, track prep machinery and anything which one could consider as a fixed asset. Who really knows the value of a club/team/track but is a lot less that most sane people are willing to pay and notwithstanding the good will based partly on the supporters etc, no one would pay more than a £1.00. It is not a sound business proposition as it stands as the return on equity is nearly non existent. Maybe ideal for profitable corporations as an offsetting tax opportunity exercise but basically you would need to be as mad as Mar h hare to put money into a sport the way speedway is currently run2 points
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Surely one rider riding for the same club in different competitions gives the sport credibility? The alternative is William Cairns riding for Belle Vue at Leicester, then swapping teams to ride for Leicester in the NT, which happened this year. I'd suggest this gives less credibility to the sport than my suggestion.2 points
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You can’t change your birthplace mate . I used to live in North Yorkshire but I’m definitely not posh 😁1 point
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So Chris is criticised for doing what is best for him as the result of the decisions made by the others that are doing that as it is best for them (no one moving up, blocking entry requests, rejecting one big league etc) All those others have been praised (in the main) for sticking to their guns......1 point
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The uncertainty over Ipswich running may have left all the other clubs in limbo though. Fans don't know yet if it will be 1 division or 2, and if it's 1 surely that was relying on Ipswich running. Just because Chris Louis says he will work hard to find a buyer doesn't mean that he will find one, or find one quickly. Where does that leave the new Ipswich owner in terms of team building for next season? Would a rider take a chance on signing for a club that might not run or might not want them on their old promoters contract? Does the new owner just get left with the riders that didn't fit elsewhere? It's too early to know the answers to these questions, and it's Chris' money and business to do what he likes with but it has created more uncertainty in a winter that's not been lacking in that at all. Has he just undone all the work that was done to get to the slightly cryptic potentially good news from Rob Godfrey last week? Again time will tell, but at the moment it looks like Chris Louis has thrown a spanner in the works hence the negative reaction to his announcement1 point
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Exactly a little bit of clarity wouldn't hurt would it, but then again this is the whole problem with this sad excuse of a sport in the UK1 point
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One thing I really don’t get is the obsession to why we need a premier league, 1 league would just make the championship the top league with more variety for fans, I could understand up till now because of tv money which selfishly the didnt want to share with the championship clubs but that’s not there anymore, the thought of belle vue riding against Poole or Glasgow or Workington is something different for the fans and personally find exciting, the championship has a hell of a lot to offer and imo a lot more than the premier for a couple of years, so I say to the top 5 teams embrace it for a year and if in a years time a couple more teams are back on the scene look at 2 leagues again, we have an opportunity for a reset of the sport here but again we will probably miss the opportunity like we always do1 point
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100%.... I stopped attending regularly about five years ago as by Monday I had watched so much Speedway on TV over weekend!!! I can see GP riders riding Friday, Saturday and Sunday if a GP weekend... Dozens of times a season... Therefore, when they appear over here "in the flesh" then the "wow factor" simply doesn't exist... BZ will 100% get me to the two GP's at the NSS as he doesn't appear over here too often.. In the halcyon days of the sport, the likes of PC, Ivan Mauger, Ole Olsen, Anders Michanek, etc etc may only appear once or twice at your track, hence they pulled in a crowd of several hundred more than average... Nowadays that "mystique" doesn't exist...1 point
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The novelty value wore off with Cardiff. It was originally a showpiece event, it just became the same thing year on year. Particularly off the track. It’s an overexposure issue, similar to what we get in league Speedway now with the same riders having multiple teams and multiple meetings against the same opponents making up the calendar. Absence makes the heart grow fonder. People miss things when they’re not constantly there, they take them for granted when they are.1 point
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And unfortunately the SGP2 was even worse that year, track kept breaking up, they even closed the roof to keep the heat out, unbelievable really for the UK but the next year which was very poorly attended it was much better and I thought a decent meeting. Having it in Manchester does not have the same appeal and it is a shame the sport does not seem to be able to support a larger venue more in keeping with what the event should be in this country.1 point